Sounder SIGN UP FOR FREE
Heavy Blog Review Podcast
Heavy Blog Review Podcast

Episode · 6 months ago

22-1 The Sound of Persereviewance (pilot)

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Headliners: Fit For An Autopsy, The Weeknd, Wilderun. 

Special Guests: Shadow of Intent, Enterprise Earth, Comeback Kid, Underoath, Hadal Maw. 

Supports: Dance with the Dead, VRSTY, Years and Years. 

Cool People: Krallice, Boris. 

Hello Josh here. What you're about here is a pilot episode of a currently untitled review podcast hosted by me and the other half of heavy blogs and mothern contingent, Carlo. We're hoping to have it some of the other writers on his guests or contributors on later episodes, but this one's just me and color going through and discussing all the heavy and one not so heavy releases from January. This is something I've been trying to get going for years, both that heavy blog and other sites I've written for, and I think the push to finally get it going was inspired by a lot of the other music podcasts that I listened to moving away from the review format, which is what I primarily go to them for, so hopefully this can go some way toward filling that gap. The idea is still a recut podcast each month, focusing on reviewing the album's we find interesting and responding to some of the reviews published on heavy blog and just giving a round up of the month's releases. This one is kind of rough, since we're just trying the format out and I was having a lot of technical difficulties on my end, with modems dropping out and things and there's a bit of background noise, but hopefully we'll have that smooth out for future episodes as we settle into things. Anyway, I hope you enjoy this and will be back very certain with Februaries episode which, as I mentioned in this one, is going to be absolutely stacked. So yeah, thanks for listening and I hope you like what you hear. I'm not sure how to start this. I don't have a name. Do you have a name? I just wanted to call it the heavy blog review pod. You Got Anything? I hadn't thought about a name, so if you come up with anything, let me go. The Best I've got is pure review. You have to clench your fist every time you do it. Don't think that's a clenching its descent. No pure rests there. It's sort of like a pun on peer review. All right, right, but that's yeah, it's not a good one. Maybe we can come up with a different review pun every time. Well, let's let's keep the idea of following. Yeah, I've got some time up with a pun. Just drop it in. Cool. As for starting, I guess we should introduce ourselves. So I'm Josh. That's how I start my other podcast. Tell me about yourself, Josh, or what are you? Tell us who you are first. So I'm Carlo Cool and and we both write for heavy. Block is heavy. We don't talking about a music and stuff. So we're going to do that and maybe some people want to listen to it. I guess is the premise of the show. Hopefully we'll find out. We'll see. Yeah, do it. Do we want to talk about ourselves? I guess I will keep it in relation to music stuff. Or do you want to give her on your life story? where? How much do you want the people to know? I don't think people care about my life story too much, but I've written for heavy blog for like six or seven years now and mostly my genres of interest predominantly tech and prog oriented. I'll death metal is probably my Goto. Straight death metal, boring as fuck, death metal with a prefix great. So that's pretty much my taste in and thatshell right. So you're saying you don't like straight ahead death Lu you like variations exactly. Yes, I'd say. I associate your tastes with ticky probably stuff, but usually sort of the more I guess, Palatable side of things rather than the when it gets all weird and experimental. I don't know if you going through. Yeah, that's dissonance. A tonal good and small doses, but small doses it is. And and you do the the artwork column. Yeah, yeah, a gift to artwork, and so I figured I like album art. Not many people seem to write about album art, so why not do that? Yeah, it's a bit. It is a bit of a unique column. Yes, now you mentioned that. I do the thrash metal and contribute to the hardcore column as well, which everybody writes about. So much more unique progressive than I am, I'd say. I'd say I'm probably maybe the most mainstream leaning of the heavy blog people riders. That be fair? Yeah, I think that's a fair Cole I like I like metalcore. It's good fun. So, yeah, they're the different angles we're coming to things from, but you'll work that out as we go. So what is the premise? We're going to talk about some albums and I had this great idea that what if it was like a little festival we did every month, or maybe twice. I'm up depending on how much spare time we have, because I'm looking at February and there is a lot of stuff that came out in February. So we will see how long and how much effort this is and then we can a ass. So, yes, I had this idea that there would be headliners, there's a big albums that we would talk about every month, and then there would be an undercard. Is that a word of I made that up. That's a word that I feel like is a word and then I say it I'm like, that's not a word. I feel like it is a word, but it makes me think of fights rather than festivals. Yeah, it's like a building of a fight. Yeah, yeah, so, until we come up with a better name, there is the undercard, which, so if the headliners are the big releases that we feel compelled to check out or...

...obliged to that everyone's probably listening to, then the undercard is sort of the still probably some bigger releases, but the stuff we've sort of individually highlighted is as stuff we're interested in talking about that's come out in the month and then, and hopefully, we will have both listened to those ones and then also throw in some time at the end to talk about the supports, which is all the little things that we don't really have much to say about, but maybe we want to point out. And maybe the other one, the other person hasn't listened to. Maybe they have. We will see. I know supports an under card mean the same thing, but that's what I'm going with for now. So good for this pilot episode. Our headliners are going to be fit for an autopsy the weekend and wilder run. Is that how we're saying that world to run? Yeah, cool. And then we have an undercard consisting of shadow of intent, enterprise, earth, hate or more comeback kid, and maybe under earth. Did you listen to the undearth of them? I did. Yes, all right, sir, under earth as well, sneaking in there. And then the supports will just be whatever we feel like talking about at the end. Does that's how? Good to you, Carlo. Let's do it, all right. So starting with well, definitely not the biggest artist on the list, but the big metal release for January, I think would be fit for an autopsy. Yes, that would be the big one, although food for an autopsy a kind of a weird one. I was thinking about today because I think they're huge among like not quite underground circles, but sort of the Internet logosphere, if you want to call it that, but they don't really have any mainstream presence. Like there are no name but not really a mainstream one. Yeah, yeah, I think that's fair. That's the genre choice does limited a bit, right. They are an extreme metal band. Yeah, yeah, but I mean this scope to gray. We've got the likes of THY art, for example, that are, you know, have decent followings. That's true. Yeah, there's they're probably building a bit on that. And of course you have their association with will Putney, who does the production for them and is the guitarist in for an autopsy and things. So, yeah, that's a good point. It's weird how big. They out as murder of God, yeah, which it is. Molly back for another and that, yeah, I's going to go into my whole that as matter thing, but it's quite a crazy that there are. They're a huge bag, given like how heavy they are. I saw them support parkway drive when they played at their the rich arenas. It was a Margaret Quarter into the big tennis arena. So they had opening band and it was very strange just here see thot is murder playing in yes, a tennis a tennis areta. This is like, this is this is too heavy for this, this is silly. But yes, when I meant to be talking about bias murder, because we're talking about fit for an autopsy, who I've been a fan of since I think it's there. Their second album was at hell hell bound, which I still think is one of the the best sort of just straight ahead and most ignorant, just bludgeoning deathcore releases, and then they got a bit weird and proggy on that, on the latest stuff. But how I know you were a big fan of their last album. Yeah, yeah, so I can. Generally, I think it's important when we're going through all of our albums, what's the the context that we're approaching this from? And so with fit for an autopsy, their previous record, to see of tragic beasts, was my introduction to them and it's still and prior to their latest and it was the only album of theirs that I've heard. I haven't gone back through their back catalog. Oh Wow, so I see of tragic beasts was tied for my album of the year in oh well, so I think two thousand and nineteen and North Lane. I was alien. Yeah, sometimes I thought it was fair for a not fit for an autopsy. Sometimes I thought it was North Lane, so I ended up just calling it a time right, wow, I didn't know it was. It was that Hig for you. Well, I we'll see how you feel about this album, but I definitely recommend you go back to the great collapse from two thousand and seventeen, which is sort of the start of this more progire Ta Week. Weirdly, I was a little bit disappointed with the Sea of tragic beasts, and I feel like I'm in the in the minority there. I mean we are going to talk about calder's review that he did for the site and I think he says it was a bit of a disappointment as well, but I think we're the only two people that think that, because everything else I saw about it was completely glowing. I didn't think it was a bad record. I was just I was very excited for it based on the great collapse, which I think was in my top five for whatever that was two thousand and seventeen, and then this one came along and it had some cool songs. I think is mirrors in particular, is the big one on there. But weirdly, overall the main problem I have with the album was the production, which is a weird thing to say, given that it's will put me and he produces everything and he's so good and all that, but I found the production see of tragic beast to be like kind of Sludgy, which is not what he's known for. He does the real, like crisp thing when you think of thy art, and there's something about see of tragic beast where I just found everything kind of muddy, like a really sort of blended together a lot for me with I think. I think get that sense at all. Yeah, no, and I don't think anyone else...

...does. Just every time I listen to it I'm like we're it just sounds like it's all. I really had to like try to hear what was going on. I A don't know. So that one I like, I thought it was cool, but I think between that and and great collapse that really put them they were already in own quality, Cook already in own quantity, but that sort of elevated them to the top of like these are some of the best. Yeahands in deathcore, if not underground fish extreme metal in general, which brings us to are what the future holds, which my first critique of the album is, why isn't there a comma in the title? But how are you feeling about our what the future holds? Color? I think it's great. I really like it. I think there's like a part of me thinks that it's on par with a see of tragic beasts, but then at the same time I still much prefer a see of tragic beasts. So I don't know how I really reconcile those two feelings at the moment. Maybe I just need more time with it and but it's it's along the same trajectory. It's more of what I like from them, that mixture of the tech, techy riffs with just the brutal simplicity in power and of the breakdowns and the vocals. Yeah, well, what I was holding my tongue from saying before when I was a talking up the great collapses. I think that was their best album in until now. I think this is far and away the best fit for an autopsy album, maybe a contenter for best death choral, but I think this is amazing. I think this is an incredible and I'm really quite blowed away by how good it is and how good it is after I like I leave it for a bit, like I can't be that good, it's just another death Carl. When I go back to it I'm like, no, every moment on this album rules. I'm always got there, like this is the best song. No, no, this one, I think. I think two towers is my favorite song, but it just keeps it just keeps going. I don't know what one of the issues I have with it at the moment, and I'm not sure if this is going to change as I get more familiar with it, but I feel like it's reasonably front loaded, like all of my favorite tracks are in the front half, and then towards the end it's still good but it's not as wow, this is sick Um. Yeah, I can see that. I think it definitely comes out strong, but I would say it's like middle loaded for me because, yeah, two tails is my favorite song, and then you've got higher level of Eight, which is just I mean that is the best diet is motorsong. They never write. Yes, the best IOD is motor song. That's not on dear desolation. Yeah, I think it's great at the middle. I think they're probably is a bit of a drop off after higher level of hate. Like the songs are worse. They're just not as memorable and gripping. But like, as you say, is still maintains that level of quality. So yeah, yeah, I think this album sick and I have nothing bad to say about it other than there's no comma and weirdly, on the thumbnail in my itunes makes it look like the lady on the covers wearing a mask. I can't think she's wearing one of the curved mass nose o they it's like, no, she's got like a skull face. I find that very confusing. Yeah, I think this rules, and you know the people always say these things. This could be an hour where the year contender. I think like it was released the first week of the year and it's right up there for me. And if you're saying, yeah, so your tragic please was your joint album of the that that's sort of validated me. I'm like, AH, should I be that excited about this Elim as the first week of the year? It's just a deathcore band. But if you're saying now, their last album is that good, and I think this is a way better. Yeah, I feel good about it and get excited this will almost certainly be in my top fifteen, I would think, and based on how I feel right now. But there's definitely like there's nothing that could stopping it from being a potential contender. And we'm going to talk about all of the year things because we write for a metal blog and that's how we think, and also it's actually been through all of this. So you know, we think it about our little ranking is that no one else cares about. But you know, I would eat my own face if this wasn't in my top ten. I'm expecting it to be definitely top five, because I was looking at my top five from last year and I think this would be would be in there, like my top three albums that aren't by suspicious zenofverbs with Nazi dog whistles in the title of their albums were between the buried to me every time I die and opticon, and I think this is on part with all of those. So yeah, fair. I just had a couple of other things I wanted to say. One note on the vocals. I feel like they're one of the few bands in extreme metal where I feel that the use of harsh vocals is not just because it sounds cool, but because they're genuinely furious about what they're saying. He Sounds Mad. Yeah, yeah, and I love it. And the clear enunciation, I think, just lends to that power that you hear as well. Yeah, you should definitely check out the great collapse because Hydra is going to blow your head off. But this particular style of vocal, which I don't really know how to describe it. So it's like almost muffled, but that like sort of deeper, hmm, like I'm booming yeah voice rather than a raspy voice. That always reminds me of misery signals. Be Familiar with them? No, right,...

...well, I mean, like, yeah, incredibly influential metal core, progressive metical band, but I think like every time I hear that vocals I sort of trace it back to there. So they're definitely in that tradition. But even reminded me of something else I wanted to say about this album, which is, did you listen to the last white chapel album, the one that came out last year? Kin, no, I think you might like it. It's like it's very toolish, which is weird r not what I was expecting to hear. No, I don't think anyone was expecting. It's like sort of went like a little bit probby and had some clean vocals on the one before, which people were really into when I was a bit more mixed about the valley, and then this one they've gone like a quite full prog, but like eighty percent prog. They definitely been listening to tool, although it has its has. The other thing they're doing is bringing in the clean vocals, which are good, but they just remind me of stained, who also have like a bit of a tool turned to them. So every time I hit the clean section I'm like, Oh, it's stained, which I don't hate stained, but I'm like why is it in my death care? But they're the leads and the drumming on on that album insane. They're good, but the thing with that album is it's sort of it's very modal. It's like here's the heavy part, here's the proggy part, here's the clean singing part, and all those parts are good, but it seems like very section off and this home, I think, blends all of that like it has the proggy stuff through all of it. There's a little bit of clean singing, not as much on the white chapel stuff and it's not really used in the same way where he's the big clean, stained chorus. But there are clean sections in there, but the whole time it sounds like a death choral. And I think yeahs and more going on in this album than maybe like to the air, even on something like higher level of hate. There's the riffing is more interesting than a lot of something like that is murder who. I like their new stuff, but it's it does what it does. HMM. Yeah, is that all we want to say about fit for an autopsy on our weight? I wanted to have something I wanted to do with this podcast. Is Sort of like bringing in some of the reviews that the other people have for heavy blog of written, just so it's not just us and no one else gets to tall. But Yeah, cal to review this album and said the see of tragic beast was not their best work. It was fine, it was possible, it had some good tracks, but mostly it meanded and nothing stuck out quite like their previous releases which, as a mentioned, I sort of agree with that sentiment. You don't. But then he goes and slags off on earth, so I can't be getting behind, but yeah, he concludes, are what the future holds. Finds fit for an autopsy, with a little more patients finally hitting their veteran stride and their sixth studio album, tracks are given ample space to come alive and the pensive beast to your way only fit for an autopsy can, paradoxically achieve. Instead of constantly cloring you with the big riffs, it's a commanding, inspired outing, far removed from the Langua of their prior work and not, I'm not too sure about the langer of their prior work. But I think we definitely agree with that overall assessment. Yeah, yeah, one anecdote that we can end on, and this May or may not ruin your enjoyment of a certain section of a higher level of hate. Yes, so, as it hit, it's that one of the breakdowns in a high level of hate. Yep, the the lyrics come in with refine a Lemma ate. But on first listen, I heard to find a lemmarade. Yeah, now I can't on hear it, but I still love it. That'll become like a what's there? What's the trivial one with the boat rudder? But everyone hails at their shows now. Yeah, that's all right, I'll listen out for that next time. All right, we're moving on now to what is definitely the biggest release of the bracket and the month of January two thousand and twenty and I decidedly not metal adding because, like heavy blog, we are I think they say genre agnostic, but I guess where genre irreverent, because I believe genre exists. I just don't really care. This is the weekend? Weekend? I don't know, he doesn't have that E in there. These are all words I've never said out loud. Let's go with weekend. Let's go with the weekend. All Right, I'm not sure. I put the weekend here because I think it's interesting. I want to talk about it and I've sort of noticed a lot of other people are on the site like when we're doing that. What we've been listening to playlists and things that he's been sticking in there. So I think, you know, we struck a chord at least with our sphere. Yeah, I I really didn't like that last weekend album. That was huge and has that that blinded by the light song. My partner, Maddie loved it and Maddie likes two or three albums a year that she plays constantly on repeat until the next one comes out, and that was one of them. So I heard that of my lot and I just I don't like it that particular. Like it's s but it's a particular style of s retro sound. It is not for me. So I wasn't sure. I didn't really pay much attention to this album, but then it was sort of getting so much hipe and things I checked it out. Color. How do you feel about the weekend? Are you annoyed we're talking about it? Do you care what's going on? I'm reasonably indifferent. It's this is the first full record of his that I've checked out and I've heard the hits and I really liked the blinding lights song that. I think that's a good song.

It's the rest of the album that I don't care for. Their fair cool on this one, I thought again heavily front loaded. Up Up to maybe the first five track or so, I thought it was amazing and then it dropped off to be fine too, maybe pretty good. I didn't really care too much for the concept side of things and like the radio voiceovers and and such. Overall, I thought it was a solid album, a bit of a slow burn. I kind of dismissed it on my first lesson, but then when I came back to it for the when you when you listed it as a headliner for this I enjoy that more than when I had first heard it the first few times. So maybe I just need to spend more time with it. Yeah, I'm really taken with this album, quite into it, I've been. I've been listening to it a bunch, but I fully agree with you about the front loaded it's those first five songs are great and then I don't think I've listened to the whole album all the way through since maybe the first or second time I was so I did listen to it all the way through today because I realized that and decided I wanted to go back and listen to the end its songs, and there's really not that much there. When this album was first announced, I don't know where I got this from, but I thought it was it was an EP right and I think it probably would have been a lot better as an epee if if it was those, those first five songs, and maybe like one or two. I like the weird, like the every angel is terrifying, which sort of brings them that dark like synth wave sort of sound on it. It's like not really a song, but it's cool and I think out of times. All right, and best friends has got a cool be but yeah, like half the album is very forgettable. Yeah, but the first half is so good, or the first five or six songs. But this is really this is sent me down, like going back and checking out old weekend stuff because I knew I liked the song starboy. Turns out I really like the olden starboard. That is the one for me, and then going back to some of his earliest stuff like the house of balloons, some books, tape. But it's an album. I don't know what that means. Is really interesting and like weirdly like experimental, and I can see where the influence that is. So I've been spending a lot of January going back and learning that I like the weekend. I still don't like after hours. It just that sounds not for me, which by comparison, because like he has that s sort of vibe through him throughout all his work. This one has a real sevities feel to me, like Michael Jackson is the the point of reference here or he's got coinciderenced talking on the album, but I think is one song is it is one of them that is just durt. Stop to you get enough might be might even take my breath now. Sacrifice. Sacrifice is fully during stop to you get enough. Okay. So I like I like that side a lot more. Yeah, I mean this is going to be one of the most popular, most successful obvious year, but I think it would be a perfect DP. I do find the the radio station thing. I don't know if it fully works, but I definitely find it more interesting and intriguing. Like I've said, I I'm finding I like the old weekend material, but my main grap with it is every single song is I really wish I respected women more, but I'm doing too much cocaine and also women are cocaine, and that is every single song. So then here where he's like I'm doing this concept of by like what if you are listening to d to the radio on the drive to heaven? I'm like, okay, I don't mind that he went for the concept and that he he tried out the radio idea and and I don't think he should not have done it. It's just not something that appeals to me specifically. It's sort of like not there enough, like throughout the album and just sort of shows up in like two or three parts rather than being this through line. But then when it shows up, it's there too much, like the last time thors on for we and we're during the lead here. Of course it's Jim Carrey is the yeah, radio did you, which I don't know why. How did that happen? I'm sure there's this stories out there, but I'm still like, okay, yeah, I don't know if he really works. I don't know if he's the best I saw it like when the weekend himself is doing the bits in it and the sings the jingles. Although I've been I'm a real man now. I have a full time job where I get up at six in the morning and drive there. So I throw on the radio in the morning and there are they're always playing this the weekend. That's not a gasoline the first song, and every single time this is on trouble Jay. When it finishes, like it fades out, weird, because it like it's part of the concept album. Yep, yeah, and they always stop and take a moment to say, oh, that was really awkward how it faded out, but it like. It's better on the album. You guys, but the concept of the album is that it's on a radio station, so it should be setting them up to like, oh, man, I don't know, drives me nuts. All right, let's get back into something more metal, though not nearly as sizeable as the weekend, nor even fit for an autopsy. We decided. They're called will to run, yes, and we are going to talk about their new album. I didn't write down the name of Epigon Guiney. Oh, I'm going Piney and I can't ticky. Look, you're probably right. While there was the heaven shall burn album, Antigny, that I...

...thought was called Antigone, but then antigony's a play, so I figure it's a piginy, but epigone, and they are probably nerty enough to go for down the pig any route. Well, epigone also reminds me of epicloud by Devin Townsend, which I think this album shares a lot in common with. Yeah, but we'll get onto that in a second. This is here, obviously not one of the the big releases, but a big release in heavy blog is heavy circles, because I think their previous album, veel of imagination from two thousand and nineteen, hit a big would with pretty much everyone at the blog, I think. Were you into that one? I liked it, I didn't love it as much as many of our friends and colleagues did. It was it was sort of just scraping into my end of your list. Yeah, I don't think I made mine of a sort of like an album I thought was more interesting, but I didn't really listen to it that often. HMM. But when I do listen to it I think it's pretty great. So were you excited for this one at all, and know if excited to the right word. I wanted to check it out. I was. Look, I was hoping that I would love it. I think the one before veil of imagination I had really enjoyed, or at least at the time, it felt like something really fresh and new and that I've not heard before. And then since then I feel like this sort of settled into their groove and on this one I'm probably feeling pretty similarly to how I did on the previous one. It's pleasant, I enjoy listening to it, but it's not making a huge impression on me and I feel like, for my tastes, I want more of their metal side and less of their folk side. We've just proved yourself the justin ti the lake at this podcast, because I have absolutely nothing of worth to add you. Just that's everything I feel about the STUF. Sucked it up. Yeah, it's not really stuck with me. I gave it a right up, I'd meant I wanted to pick it as the I do the release day around up so we have the at the top picks of the week or whatever, and I'm one of the guys that does that, and I wanted to pick this album but I was too like getting it inser. But then the next week I picked it as like, oh, the best album of last week or whatever, which, in retrospect, should have been the weekend. And I can't remember what I wrote, but I was like, oh, yeah, it's prog and it's Super Prog, and I did say, Oh, it's a bit different to their previous one. It's a bit it's a bit of a grower, but I was like Nah, it's it's going to grow on me. Yeah, and then sort of a month down the track, it every time I've gone back to it I've been less unamored with it. MMM, takes a long time to get going. Yes, and that's that was the next thing I was going to say. I feel like it's not until track three that I actually feel like it's grabbing my attention. And and you know, when you've got almost twenty minutes of music to get to that point, that's a bit concerning. Well, even like the first song is like a soft sort of probably song which really reminds me of porcupine tree, have their comeback album coming out later in the year. So I was like, the previous album the touch point was opath mmm and then maybe edge of sanity, and that's stuff, and here I was like, okay, porcupine tree, we're going in a different proggy direction. So you've got that soft song which, yeah, it's almost five minutes, and then the next song starts with a soft intro that takes two and a half minutes to kick in. So I'm like, why is that first song there if you're going to have reset into the soft intro? It's like it doesn't have to be heavy all the time. But like this album is dynamic in everything that's going on right. It goes really, really soft earlier that, but I find the the mood of it, the tone, to be very stagnant. It's always in that sort of mallow we kind of I don't know, like you said, I enjoy it while it's on. It just it hasn't grabbed me, apart from maybe you like. There's a couple of moments, I think, distraction part two, which is the heavier, faster one. YEA, which just sticks out by being heavy and faster. Yeah, I don't know. I think this is a good album but, like I've been we've been seeing everyone putting the weekend in their album collisions and thing I haven't seen anyone talk about or mentioned this album since it came out. Cool Eden Eden did review it and he said it's an album that will challenge you and we'll take a long time to decipher, since more of it lies beneath the surface. But darkness understand if you're coming to a pigany for the same melodic flourishes, the feel of imagination was so good at you would not be disappointed. It's all there, just glimpsed out from beyond a mirror darkly. I don't know. I had to be interested to follow up with him and because he I feels like he's saying the same sort of thing I was when this Holm came out, like Oh, yeah, it's different, but it'll grow on you. And if it hasn't grown on me, I wonder if it's grown on him as well. Maybe last and I can edit him in. So we did point out I read his review today and the whole most of the review is comparing the cover, which I found really interesting. So right, have you read the review? No, I'll have to check it out then. Yeah. Well, he's sort of contrast that the was a villa imagination, has a warm color pellette and this one has a cool color palet. He's talking about how that relates to the different sounds of the ELM, which, Yep, good point. And he points out that if you look in the in the bottom left corner of the cover of this one, it's got the like the warm colors, the oranges and the yellow, sort of being swept away in the storm, which is which is interesting. So this is definitely a conscious shift they've made. Yeah, I thought that was interesting. Yeah, I'm so all right, there ahead,...

...doing stealing my thunder. Thanks are then. So you have invoked my name on a podcast of which I was not a part, your punishment will be severe and eternal. But seriously, I listened to what you guys had to say about will the runs, Epiegne epigone. It's the first time I'm saying the name out loud and I realize I have no idea how to actually pronounce that, Oh what it means. But yeah, the album has definitely grown on me, I think. Like I said in the review, it did take me a while to disciple some of what they were going for here, and while I agree with you that it's less direct or directly pleasing then veil of imagination, I actually end up liking it, not more, but at least the same amount. Like you know what, more, just depends on the day of the week, I. Depends on my mood and what I want to listen to. If I want to hear something flamboyant and extravagant and in your face, then I'll listen to velive imagination, but if I want to go more on the pod girl side, all the more ambient sound, then I'll listen to epigon. I think it's a fantastic album and the only reason I haven't really been, quote UNCULLE, talking about it is because I reviewed it right, so I did my part. I'm not sure why others haven't been talking about it as much. Maybe they just haven't had the time yet to dive into it. But I really do think that it's a fantastic album and also really brave move by the band, by Wilderrun, to kind of ex law different parts with or sound. Yeah, you mentioned Porcupine Toe. Definitely an influence. I think in general that whole area of not post progressive exactly, because it's not the video were talking about here, but you know, pineapple thief and stuff of that Ilk will sults work in general is major influence here. And that's it. Carlo. You're welcome for me stealing your job doing the out thing. It was never exclusive. I never sign any contact, so I'm going to feel free to cover album outs in the future. You can tell you what to do, because I learned the blog piece out notes, onto the under card, onto the on the card. Where do we want to start? Let's go with shadow of intent. All right. Yes, here, on the same day that the the fit for an autopsy album came out, I'm sure most of our listeners will be aware, there's pretty much all the death core albums came out, including was that allergy by shadow of intent, although I don't know if I call them a death core band anymore. We'll get to that color previous experience with shadow of intent. I've listened to all of their records and I listen to this one and throughout I don't really have much to take away. The vocalist has chops and the rests just seems pretty blend to me. Right. This is this is on all their albums, including this one. Yeah, okay, like there's a bit more symphonic, so I guess going on here, which is cool, and I feel like there's a bit of flesh God worship. Oh yeah, but it's still not really hidden the spot for me. Yeah, I would have gone, whether I think, cradle of filth and bleeding through. But yes, that's symphonic sort of side to it. I'm surprised you say that like that disinterest, whether whether you like it or not, but that lack of engagement is consistent across they're like all of their albums, because I think this is quite far removed from certainly there their first few albums, which I think we're pretty straightforward to have much syntha symphonic stuff on the early stuff. I haven't gone back to them recently and not that they recall, like maybe on an intro track or something, but not really throughout, because they had a pretty big sound change, I think, on the previous alm melancholy from two thousand and nineteen, where it moved more in that Melodic Death Metal Symphonic Angle, and I was all about that album. I really liked it, and I think this is that sound sort of brought to furish. I think this hold rips. Yeah, and I think it's I think it's got a look going for it, like not just the symphonic stuff, like there's power metal influences on our fury and stuff. That lead work is insane. Yeah, I don't know if I'd call this deathcore anymore. I think the core is pretty well weeded out of this, apart from maybe they even the vocal deliveries, sort of a melodeath sort of thing. MM. They sort of. They really remind me, like not so much sonically but just the way they're perceived, of like the Black Dallia murder who on their early LMS. Like we're deathcore and then all of a sudden became now there are a lot like death metal outband now and then you sort of listen back and go well, they were always a bolodic death metal band. I'd know. I haven't gone back to the early shadow of intent albums, but yeah, I think this album's awesome. I think it. What's that band? Wins of plague? Were you ever into them at all? No, but that the name is familiar. They yeah, they were sort of doing this symphonic power metal influenced deathcore. They're generally considered not very good, because they're not very good, but they were true. They were trying to get it something with this mixing in these euro flourishes into into death care. There's an out album called the Great War, I think, which is their best album.

Feel like Noyan loves that album. Yeah, I think he's. I think he's a fan. There's a couple of people at the blog who are a fan. We yeah, I think this album sort of takes that sound and and is the realization of it, but it's not grabbing you. No, like I'm willing to give it another crack if you're so pumped. Is there anything other than power metal that's pulling you in there, because power, that power metals not really my jam. Well, I don't think there's that much power metal on it. Just the fact that there is power metal on it is remarkable. They I think I'll fury, which they've just released as a single, is the song that has sort of the Jaunty power metal vibe to it. I mean it's a lot more melodic death metal like. If it's if it's not your thing and you're not into it, then I wouldn't say persevere. It's not something where it's like, Oh, why don't you like it? If you if it's not for you, then yeah, I don't think it's it has that broad appeal. But if it is for you, I think this album is is right in the pocket. Yeah, okay, it's got the guy from White Chapel doing he's he's stayed impression on one of the songs. You know, I think this album was really cool and the like the fit for ant autopsy want it's so I keep going back to it and being like sort of surprised by by how good it is. HMM. But if that's all we have to say about that one, then we can move on to enterprise earth, which, with the other big deathcore band, to releasing ourm on that day. This album is cooled. The chosen and enterprise Earth, much like shadow of intent, are sort of a, you know, upandcoming or they were an upandcoming deathcore band. There was a lot of buzz around them going into this album. I'm like shadow of intent, who had sort of followed and was big on their last album, I'd never really paid attention to enterprise earth. I'd seen the name, I think I'd listened to the albums once or twice. I went I don't really see why this deathcre is any better than any other deathcore like. I didn't think it was bad or anything. They just seemed like another deathcore band, a good one, but I didn't see anything or remarkable about them. Were you aware of them before this album, because in the lead up to this I feel like their name was everywhere. I'd never heard of them until this album and then just all the who are around deathcor day, all the deathcore bands are releasing their albums together, so I thought sure, why not, I'll check it out right. So you checked it out before I put it on the bill for this yes, yes, all right, well, let's start with you, then. How are you feeling about the chosen? I think it's pretty solid. I enjoy it. I think it's fun. The guitars are really neodly and melodic. The vocals I can see as being very polarizing. I haven't looked into what the reaction to this record has been and but I imagine that the high pitched sort of half fry s cream, half a distorted to clean vocal, maybe off pudding. But I actually really enjoy that, the tone that they get with that and like taking the opening track as an example, I think the chorus is super catchy and a real ear whim. I'll where dreams are broken, and it's probably the main reason why I kept coming back to it initially, just because I thought that was really fun track. It's a pretty solid open I yeah, I think it's probably a little on the longside and like, did it? Did it really need to be an hour and seven minutes? I think forty five minutes would probably have a much better effect without really dropping anything important. But I think it's fun. I like it. You. Well, we're back in in sync mode, because I fully agree with everything you've said. Yeah, we're dreams are broken is just the bay thicket album, Oket I. Yeah, definitely doesn't need to be that log I read. My main problem with this album is, why doesn't it end with legends never die? Because that's song. Is fully that. That's the big close. You got a yelling legends never die at the end and a fades out. You like our cool. That was it. And then there's like five more songs. Yeah, and all those songs are fine, but I'm like, why is this still going? Yeah, it's definitely too long, but I was both surprised by how much I like this album and I'm surprised that it sounds like this. This was not what I was expecting at all. Yeah, and I haven't gone back to their previous stuff since I've been meaning to, I just I haven't got around to it, but I don't remember it sounding like this. Like yeah, I remember them being like another deathcore band and they're not another deathcore band on this. Like there's the again, a big melochic death metal influence, those leads again, which there's a lot of shredding on this album, which is with yeah, we're dreams are broken. It's got this massive stopping slipknot riff to it. There's like eight minutes sort of I'm going to say, power metal influenced, if not power metal, sounding like epics that go through all these big stages and stuff. Definitely. I mean, yeah, they got the odd leishell, which has the big battle crying and stuff. So, yeah, this, this wasn't was expecting and yeah, I really dig it. There the other bander reminds me of, which, yeah, I think you like them as well, is when it goes into that locks into that groovy thrashy stuff, which it does quite a lot and I like. It really reminds me of lead from within. Oh Yeah, yeah, I thought of that, but that's a good chout. Yes, moments where it drops into that sort of stompy thrash groove, and I'm like lead from with him, which is cool, because I was an error is the belief from with an album. Yeah, the one great last which, yeah, rules.

So I like to see that sound getting picked up here. The vocal stuffs grown on me. I was a bit thrown by it to begin with, but again, I think that's taking from a European influence. Well, because what that reminds me of, which I realize later is hypocrisy. Do their clean vocals like that, especially on they have their two albums that are about alien abductions. Maybe they're all about alienductions, but the two big alien ones, I think it's the arrived. Otherwise I think one's called the abduction and the arrival maybe, which I think they're too best ills. Yeah, they do the vocals like that on there. So I wonder if that's a direct influence, that they've been listening to hpocrisy or just ever arrived at that sound on their own. Yeah, this is really cool. I don't think it's as strong as will definitely not fit for an autopsy or shadow of intent, but I think maybe it's more interesting than shadow of intent, like it's pulling in more directions and maybe this is the melancholy to their allergy, as in the neck. The next alm will be the one that pulls it all together. But yeah, all three of the death core releases of our winners for me much like fit for an autopsy, where I don't like that there's not a camera and a title. My main grow up with this album, apart from the length, is the cover art is is bad. Yeah, yeah, the like I like the stained glass idea, uh Huh. And and from what I can tell, I think or they've had they've had that theme on some prior covers as well. But just the blood is not done. Well, yeah, the blood does not work. And like it's not even just that, it's that bold red, like it's not flowing properly. It's just like straight down, like if it was something gritty, whereas like dry blood caked on this stained glass window. I think it'd be cool. All right, I think that's all the deathcre we've got on the cards. Are Any last death care thoughts? Now I'm all good. All right. Where are we going next? That on, that you let you pick. Let's go with Comeback Kid, come back, because I believe you're really into this newest album, heavy steps. Heavy steps. I am indeed very into the new comeback kid album, heavy steps. I'm very into Comeback Kid. I was hesitant to put these on the under car just because you're not really a hardcore guy, or I don't think of you as one, so I thought it had just been me. God, yeah, how sick a comeback kid, and you'd be like, Oh, yeah, but you stopped me. You really like their last album. Yeah, I did enjoy outsider, which was when feel like that's been a while now since that came out, and then this this dropped and I checked it out and I thought this is pretty good, but I don't think I'm enjoying it as much as I enjoyed outside the. So I sort of left it that that and then you suggested that we have a chat about the latest record. So I went back to both of them to see whether I was remembering outside the correctly and having really listen to it, I feel like outsiders probably dropped in my estimation now and heavy steps is probably a step up. Are you familiar with their with their other work, just these last two right outside? That was my introduction. Okay, I don't go back as far as as a lot of people, but I've been listening to come back kid for a while and to me outsider is by far the their weakest album. And I don't know if it's seemed by this overall, but it didn't seem to strike as much as as there are other albums like just with the general reaction I saw. But it I didn't think it was a bad album. It was a weird album. I thought like Devin townsends on it, although I guess the guys from gojure on this album, so I'm not really sure what's going on, but I thought that really worked. By the way, the jode the Plantier, guess, but I really enjoyed that. Yeah, it's cool. We'll get to him later because I have I have gripes. But yeah, outside for me was sort of yeah, I never really went back to it. It's sort of seemed like a confused, messy record to me and I went back to it once after this. I went arts decent. It's got some cool songs, like I think surrender control was the y song or somewhere somehow both of those. Yeah, I think they were the two single. So again proving I'm a bit basic. But this is coming off. They're there too, previous albom symptoms and cures and die knowing, which I think of their best, like wake the dead's the classic w symptoms of cures is my favorite, and then die knowing is where they like brought in a lot of the metal on dinnoing. It's got a real cross over field to it, which I didn't think was really continued on outside, even like they brought Devin towns in and stuff that they there wasn't a whole lot of metal metal to it, whereas heavy steps is a metal album. This is their thrash riffs and I am here for this is the yeah, this is wicked. Heavy steps is. I mean we were saying, what's the enterprise? Earth is an amazing open a heavy steps is an instant classic. It does kind of bug me that it goes straight into the chorus. I want them to sort of do a fake out and drop into another verse before they go there. But that's that's like very nitpicky. Yeah, I think this albums wicked dead on the fences. The other one, for me, just just got that big gang vocal Cham and the big heavy drop at the end. This is I saw. I went to Hell Fest in was a two thousand and fourteen or whatever, which had all the bands, hmm, but the band I went off for, the burst were come back head, who I almost didn't see because I think they that was the biggest clash of the whole vessel. was like them,...

I think soulflyer on the main stage and someone else was playing, maybe maybe God flesh or something like that. So very, very different bands. And I don't know. At the last moment I was walking over to see soulfly and I was like I'm gonna go see come back kid and and I had been standing at the back being cool or weekend and I went right up the front was doing the going off lose of a shit, and that's how I am with with this record. This comes on and I just, like all my furniture gets flipped. Yeah, this, this sounds sick. The JODA plantier song. Do we do? We want to talk about that? You like it? Yeah, I think it's great. Yeah, me too. My problem with it again is the cover up. We're having a lot of Meta talks, but the cover art is not only God awful and ugly, but it's an nft color. Oh No, they did a promotion thing where there was the cover was revealed and it was an aft and things, and I don't know like how much of that them versus the record label or you know, where that's crew's coming up with that idea and pushing it. But I was very disappointed a that a band I liked we're doing that and and be that. That band was come back kid, who I don't think I like a particularly political band any more than any other hardcore band, but they've always seemed like they're real man, and I'm like, you're doing nft's I don't know, and look, maybe if more people were actually paying for music or buying merch or whatever, they wouldn't have to do things like this. So I don't remond them, you know, trying to make a living, but that was pretty disappointing. And then, as you said, you've got there at a plant here on the album who is inges urine and is very political and has the whole environmental bent, which is something I've been meaning to write about for two years now and have like a four thousand word draft that I need to finish off. But like their last album had this big campaign about, you know, saving the Brazilian rainforest. What's Amazon rainforest? Sorry, and then you know one of the things with nfts is the environmental cost and things like that. So to have him on the album and then bring it out as an aftas is just, yeah, not sitting well with me and is exacerbated by how much I really love this album. I think this is a huge return to form for them and yeah, probably top four comeback kid albums. I think this is edging out broadcast. Probably probably personally like it now I don't wake the debts better. But yeah, this is this is great and if you dig this, I definitely say yeah, go back and check out dinoing articular. Yeah, all right, we're two next cars. Like a chooser, an adventure. Let's go with under earth. Under Earth. Okay, a late addition because I'm not sure how you're going to feel about Unde Earth. I have been a long time and usually glowing under Earth Fan. So so give me, give me the background on under eight, because this, I think this is probably the first time I've checked out a record of theirs and I've heard the name a lot, but I don't know much about them. Under oars or were one of the Big Christian metal core, post hardcore bands, and and Christian was a big part of their identity. Right. They have they have two, well three now. That two very distinct phases. Is they release three albums that no one really cared about with a different singer and then he left and they got their current vocalist, Spencer Chamberlain, who is, you know, he's a pretty wellknown figure in the sort of post hardcore metal core see he joined on their fourth album. They're only chasing safety, which was sort of their big breakthrough albumber, and that's where I came to the band. But there I've gone back to their earlier stuff and it's very different and it's not very good. There are only chasing safety. Is and absolute classic of the the POSTIG core screamer genre. That and and the follow up to find the great line, which brings in a lot of post metal elements and has as they go on, they yeah, bringing more of these Postya proggy are not extremely proggier but more drawn out, interesting song structures Matthia in places as well. To find the great line is yeah, is another classic, so that they're there. Two albums that are that are a big deal and to find the great lines. The best one, but they're only chasing safeties. The one I go back to a go yeah, being a teenager and being all angsty and shit. Yeah, and then they had two other arms lost in the sound of separation and the other ones just the nor with the cross through it. I think it's referred to as disambiguation, right. But and these albums were also very good and then they broke up. So they were hugely critically acclaimed, that very popular. I think that that for album run is damn near perfect. And then they came back eight Lee years later with a raise me. Spencer Chamberlain was we did a lot of drugs and that was a big thing with him here. He had problems with addiction and then that conflicted with the sort of Christian ethos that faded away towards the end of that run but was a big part of their early identity. So there was a lot of stuff going on there. They came back with a raise me and the headline about with Araised me was they released the first single on my teeth. I think it's called yes, the first thing on my teeth in the big the headline about that song was he says fuck in that song, which you know a good Christian boy would never do. And there was sort of an attitude about this album...

...of coming back that you know he was no, he was officially renounced his Christianity and and that was that was what was going on there. So yeah, perfect forum curve leading up to that erased me, this big anticipated come back. I reviewed it when I came out in two thousand and eighteen and was very disappointed. In the recording it was and I think have been validated in the time since that this album was, yeah, bit of a bummer on my teeth. came out and people are like, Oh, this isn't great. It's by far the best song on the album and the only one that's really stuck with him from that. Yeah, so I was almost disinterested going into voyeurists, which again metacritiques Voyeur yes, Voy as a word. Yeah, wasn't really taken with the with the singles, and so I sort of left it a bit. So I went to it and I think this is a huge return to form for them. So this is more in line with their older stuff, though still keeps that sort of more melodic, electronic influenced modern direction that they had on the last album. So that's that's the under Earth History Lesson and a headline about how I feel about it. This being your first real exposed to how are you feeling about voorst color? I think it's solid. The the two sounds that kept sort of jumping out at me were NU metal and diet bring me the horizon, right. So this is one of those things where under a sound like bring me the horizon, but bring me. The horizon originally sounded like under rose and it's sort of gone around and become it in so what's the snake called? The URABOROS HORUS? Yeah, so like Hellelujah, for example, just sounds like a sempaternal b side to me, and I mean I love some paternal don't get me wrong. Yeah, but it's just not quite hitting the mark that I would want it too. And the other influences that I'm picking up our bands I enjoy, like deaf tones, for example. I feel like there are a few sort of Postia, mellowy parts in there, but overall I feel like it's less than the sum of its influences and it's not quite the different sounds ain't quite coming together in the way that I would have hoped. Yeah, deaf tones is definitely a huge touchstone for this, although I thought you did not like deaf turns. I wrong about that. I do enjoy them, I don't love them like I'm another idea. If turns fan boy and it depends on the album, right, but overall I'd say I enjoy them. If they'll playing a show, I'd go see them. I do. There's some of the best shows I have I've ever been to a bit deaf tone shows. Yeah, voious, definitely. Yeah, modern death tones. The last few death turns albums as a huge influence here. The under they bring me the horizon thing is is interesting. I mean I've already said it, but when I first heard sever turn on, which I am lower on the most people, I think it's a good album, but it's not my favorite of theirs by a long way. That was actually the album that got me into metal core. Well, there we go. I think it was the on that got a lot of people into metal core. It's that. The two before the ones I like. I haven't. We could do a whole room in the rizing thing. We can't go into that because I just did the history of under earth. But there my I think my first reaction to sever turnal is old they've been listening to under earth. There's a lot of we're only chasing safety on sever eternal. I do agree. Here they are yeah, Hello Lujah, like there's a bring the horizon song where he's let he, where he says hello you right heart, like Hellelujah or something like that. But no, I think. I think first of all, when I first listened to this I was impressed by hey. It's way better than the last one and there's a lot more aggression and heaviness to this. The last album was was pretty flats. Are Opening with damn excuses. I think was, you know, a bit of a statement of intent, although again they're playing on it's it's called Damn excuses because, like, you know, Fuck God and all of that, which is where I do think the immaturity on the lyrics really comes through and weirdly they sound more immature here than they did on they're only chasing safety. But I think there's some huge songs on this. The cycle featuring Ghost Maine is fucking wicked and if you watch there's a like a live video of them performing that that it's just it's sick, just like. Okay, I'm check it out. I think Ghost Maine he sort of like he doesn't stand out as much as I was expecting him too, but I think he lends that song like its own sort of vibe and they really run with it. What's the One? Hellelujah? As much as it's a bring me their eyes and Aping Song, I think it's just a huge anthem. Yeah, we're all going to die as well that song gets stuck in my head and now I'm which I think was the lead single that I was like, I'm not really into this. Yeah, now I'm into I think. I think if this was the new bring me with horizon album, people would be losing their shit. That's probably a fair cool like. Although would they be losing their shit because it's good, or would they be losing their shit just because it's more in the style that they want from them? I think this is way better than the last bring with the horizon EP or album or whatever? That was. No, what is wrong with you, Josh? That was amazing. Like that at all. That that race record. The first track was all right, that's for me. No, I did not like that. I'm that the song with baby metal was atrocious. This is so. I think this would be when they were talking about...

...all we're going back to our old sound and stuff like. This would be the fruition at the delivery of that, I guess. So. Yeah, maybe people looking for that more genre blending and bending side would be disappointed, but as far as like, oh, it's bringing their eyes and doing the the modern thing but with a bit of the old grit, I think this is it. Although it speaks volumes that we're talking about bring the horizon rather than than under earth. You know, I don't know. I I'm really into this and I find myself going back to it heaps just because, yes, sounds like we're all going to die. Just I find myself singing them. I'm like, all right, got to go listen under arth all afternoon now, and I'm cool with that. It's not quite reeling me back in the way it's with you. I mean I definitely have the nostalgia things for it, where I'm like cool, this is back to the Vibe, but I thought you might have been into this one, because, like, you're into stuff like Lincoln Park and the North late then you are not playing albums and things. Think there's a bit of that there. Are surprised to who you say new metal. Yeah, you don't hear it. I mean the deaf tones thing. If we're calling that new metal, though, I think they're pretty far removed again and not really. Yeah, that's quite a strong vibe for me, just with the way that they're riffing and the tones. It's Bouncy, but I guess I associate it more with, yeah, the press hardcore stuff all right. That's all we got to say about voorist. Yes, again, atrocious cover up what is going on. And Yeah, they will not be making my column. All right, so I'll last band on the undercard. I'm Melbourne Man because we're from Melbourne. We didn't say that, but we are dead hate no more. Who? Yes, a very smaller band compared to all the other ones we've talked about today. I but I guess apart from world around here we even have a bit of buzz at the moment. This has been a very what's the word? Not Mainstream, but these are big names. We've been talking about M and hate or more are not. There are band you and I have have a bit of a history with you. Yeah, so I have been across them since their debut send him, which I really enjoyed. took me a long time to get into it and for it to click for me, but when it did it was great. Then they came out with all a few years back, which had some really good material on it, but the production just wasn't quite right for me. And there are a band that are fantastic live and still haven't been able to translate that on record. And since then they've released a couple of EPS, and Oblique order being the most recent among them. Yes, so this is four tracks and for those not in the know, head of more of the band, for it's the guitarist from was a million dead birds laughing. I guess they made this band while that band we're broken up, and then I've sort of kept going since over reformed. Yeah, I was actually aware of them on because I'm cool, when they put out their demo in two thousand and twelve, because I think I was following, I mean in dead birds laughing, they put out and it was, if you heard that one, the two thousand and twelve promer. No, it's very different from what they ended up being. I don't think they had been boyle they get the guitarist. I don't think he joined at that point. So it was the rhythm all the secondary guitarist from a million dead birds laughing had a bit more of an almost not new metal, but that old metal kind of vibe to it. Right, and I was really hyped while that there were two songs, merchant of Adean Pulse, whatever that means, and shadow cast, which that's the one. A few if you go back was that that's all ours. So I was really excited when the debut came out and was a little, a little bit disappointed that it was like so in line with sort of what a million dead birds laughing had been doing. MMM, I mean it's pretty different from a million dead bird's laughing. I you are a big fan of them. I don't know about big fan, but I do there's a they've got a couple of records that I really enjoy. Yeah, I mean I really like them and like they're pretty wild and this, to me was sort of like, well, what if it was that tone but a bit more straightforward? That Disn't attack that. I thought it was cool. I think all was. It was a big step up, but, as you said, it's the production. What's going on? They and they don't seem to be able to fix it. Why is it still not sounding right? I mean, I don't know if anyone else thinks this because, yeah, we've talked about this before. I was very surprised, and pleasantly only surprised, that you agreed with me about the production. I thought this was a weird me right, and I reviewed their last AP, Charlottean from two thousand and eighteen and said as much in that review. Like I love the idea of this band. I listen to it the risk of call they're awesome live, like we've seen them together alive. I can't remember who with, but they were like the best band on the night. I think was psycroptic and a couple other people and yeah, just sounded huge and awesome and they just get on record and it's just it's, sorry, energy less to me. I don't know. Yeah, that's a great way to put it. And, like usually, we said at the top that we're they tonal dissonant death metal is not usually my go but they do a really great job at it and we're among the the forefront of that genre sort of rising up over the last ten years or so. But I mean, I saw...

...them live just a couple of weeks ago and it was incredible and they play. They so they headlined and Black Lava was the main support, which is a new band featuring ben boil and Dan presland from the oblivascaris on drums and a couple guys from Black Helm on base and vocals. So new soup, so to supergroup. I guess their recorded that then your record, but it's not out yet. I think it's being mastered at the moment. I'm going to listen to that. But back to hatele more. Like I'd list I'd listened to this ep before going to the show and was just like, okay, this sounds just like the rest of Hadelmore's discography. It's fine, it's pretty good, it's not really doing a huge amount for me. And then I saw it live and I was like this is sick. Why did I not feel like this is sick when I listened to it on record and in particular the title Track Oblique Order, and I didn't pick this up when I when I first heard it? But live they brought on the to two of the guest vocalists that feature on the track, and so we've got their usual VOC vocalist, who's sort of a mid range growl, and then they bring on Karina Utomo of high tension, who's, yeah, chipping in with high pitched fry screams, and then Luke Frizzon from growth I don't and and he is just got these bellowing lows reminiscent of slaughter to prevail for me, at least, not so much on on the recorded version, but seeing them live. That's probably the deepest sound I've heard the person make. And so you've got those three vocalists, each with their own range, harmonizing. I guess, if you, if you can say, if you can say that for harsh vocals, and it just sounded monstrous and massive and I loved it and it's a shame that you don't get that same power when you listen to the record. I. Yeah, I listened to this just before we started, because it's like twenty minutes long or something, and I did not notice that at all. I had no idea. Not only that, did I not know there were guest vocals on this album. I didn't know there was anything going on with the vocals on that song. That song stood out to me as the best on the album, but because of what the guitars were doing. Yeah, yeah, this is fall and real flat for me and I'm I'm glad you've said they're wicked live. I haven't been to a GIG for like two years, since like pretty covid stuff, so I might have to get it back out there and check this out. But that's sort of reinvigorated my hope. I guess because I saw a list of this and when I'm done with hate or more like it's just not happening. And I think we've referred to them previously as the most frustrating band. Yes, because I love the idea of them. They're awesome live, that it just doesn't come through. And I don't know, I don't know where the only two people who think this, because they seem to have a pretty big following and they get good, well reviewed. But yeah, constantly it doesn't try as late for me. But they don't seem interested in changing that because, like, I don't know if they think it's a problem. Well, yeah, it sounds like a deliberate choice at this point. Yeah, the production has been the same on all of their albums, which so it's what they're going for, but also like that kind of has a lack of ambition to it. I guess they are sort of repeating themselves. I don't know, I want a gritty a production from them and I don't know why is there a dissonant band with with gritty production, because I can't think of like someone to be like, Oh, you should sound like this because you know, goal guts, an ulcerate. Have this, like they're there the gold standard when it comes to this, think, and they have that real crisp sounds. So I don't know, I don't know who they should be imitating, but this isn't working for me, but maybe it's working for everyone else and it sounds like it's working live still. Yeah, they played the other stuff from this this EP. Yeah, I think they definitely played at least two or three when I was really listening to it earlier. And so, yeah, a good days of the ape as well as their whole catalog. Actually, that's a good check. Yeah, I haven't been back to Charlison me though. I don't know. Yeah, Charlton did nothing for me. Right. Yeah, I always the one and it just doesn't quite get there. I don't are frustrating band, but maybe other people like them more than us or more than me. You, you like them a lot. It seems you are reinvigorated. I am. I still have hope, Josh. Don't give up on them. All Right, I warrant. I'll go see I'm live next time they're they're playing. I'll probably when they're supporting someone else I like. All right, that that is our undercard in the end of our official reviews, which is quite we've been talking for a while, so the supports is just the section of Rus to sort of shout out anything else we've been listening to. It's of note. I've got to list there of stuff I thought was worth maybe mentioning. Did you have anything you wanted to talk about, or are there any of those you've listened to when actually want to discuss? I don't have any anyones to add. That's pretty much all the listening I've done from January and that we've already discussed, although the dance with the dead album intrigues me because I have heard some of their previous stuff and I thought I think they're pretty cool. I didn't realize they have a new one, and...

...so I'd be keen to hear your thoughts on that. Yes, this is called driven to madness because I has a skeleton driving a car. You see, it's cool. That's about all I've got. That's why it's sitting down there in the in the supports. It's a fun metally sid sort of album. I put on a few times and it's actually it's got a bit of a Zita vibe to it when they get pump him. But yeah, hasn't really stuck with me as much as as some of the last stuff. So but it's cool. If you're looking for you know, we can pump an electro metal. It's good stuff. Cool. Well, I don't want to just talk at you then about about all these other albums, so I'll just pick a couple. I wanted to mention Varsity. That's Vassis. About vstvy? Are you familiar with them? Never heard of them. They're one of these rb metalcore bands, like in the in the vein of issues and things. They had an ep out maybe last year or the year before. That was it was pretty cool and interesting. And then this album came out and I was the singles didn't do much for meals looking forward to it because of how much I was digging the weekend album that this I's fallen pretty pretty flat for me and I think a lot of other people as well. So bit of a disappointment there. But if you're interested in the weekend goes very light metal core, maybe check that one out. Cool. On the positive side of that is this years and years. I'm know you aware of this. No, so years and years. Apparently they're a big deal there are Ukraine band or are you a UK Solo artist? Because, following on from the weekend was genre, we working with gay pop, right, and he looks familiar. Yeah, so this is all the Alexander, who apparently is a known quantity. I'd never heard of him or them. I think it was a band that became a solo project. But yes, it's very strange that we have the weekend in years and years and pop stars are called time frames now. I'm not sure what's going on there. Yeah, if if you're into the weekend and I'm talking to you, the audience, not you coo, because I don't think there'll be much for you on this one. This is like Dancy Dancy pop. It's really cool. I've been listening to a lot. Yeah, I don't want to do it full of you, because we're just mentioning. I'm scrolling through, I see Kylie Minegge in the dress listing and no one. Do you love it? Well, I didn't even like cal even I got to the last year we did there. We did the whole Klie feature of that. Yeah, it's got that that sort of vibe. Now there's that. You got to get the bonus version because there's a song about muscles. It's good stuff. This has been my if comeback kids, my flipping all my furniture over. This is my booking. Why I pick it all back up. Album this is. This is a would go to, feel good records that I recommend to people who like the weekend and fun pop music. What else is there? Yeah, that should about do us, though I do want to do a semi official section called Josh tries to be cool, which can be expanded to Josh and Carlo try to be cool if you want to get involved. But this is when, like these are all the albums we're just doing talking about. It's been, yeah, fairly mainstream bill this week. So I'm sure all the all the cool people on heavy blog and in the listening ago. Well, why haven't you been listening to Krallis and Boris? So I went listen to Krallis and Boris. Have you listened to the crewis or the borrows all from? I have not, unfortunately. So, yeah, I figure out every episode after I'll try and pick one of these. Just albums that are that are not cool enough for was halal more not cool enough, while no, apparently, according to our review. I don't think Krallis are called enough for you. What's God you did you have a crellis thing. I don't know. People like them like I've been recommended them so many times, but that kind of black metal just to too weird for me. It's not weird enough for me. I think, is my problem. All the right, the ten or fifteen minutes snapshot, I listen it would just seemed like a lot of trebly harshness and not a lot of a lot of variation. I don't know. But the one I actually did GIG give a prolong listen to, I did listen to the entire Boris record. Are you familiar with Boris? Never listened to a full album of theirs, but I know that they're ECLECTIC. Yeah, the Boris a weird man. Yeah, I put it in. Yeah, we did their released around up so and I try and put in rettle funny genre tags, and that's Gott goes in and and edits the ball to make them sensible. But he, like I, just put in borises. Think it was just like uh, and any left that one in because I don't know what you describe this as. This is it's like do metal. But what if there was like ambient. Twenty minutes of ambient music and then do metal, the kind of rocks, and then back to ambient. It was fun. It was cool. I kind of liked borus. I'm interested in borrows, so maybe someone let me know which Boris album I should listen to. That was my attempt to be cool for the month. I don't know what's coming out. We'll try and find find something for next month that I can actually I think next month the black country new road album that's already come out. I'M gonna try and put myself through that. All Right, I'll join you. We can try and be cookids together. That's it. That's our version of the cool people column exactly. We put on sunglasses for the end of the podcast and pretend that we like true underground music. I I think black country new roade one like a bread of water some shit. Yeah,...

I don't know about underground, but Oh, I do want to ask. Did you listen to this? This SOM album is so am no, no, I was just so. It's on polgic records and it sounds like the ocean. Okay, yeah, so that's great, is what you're saying. Other that sounded sounded fine. I didn't really listen to it. Apparently some people in on the slack were hyped about it when I was coming out, but I've never heard of them. I don't know what some or SOM stands for, but that was the other review they had up on on heavy block to. They have a lot of circles on their album cover, the s a everything. Yes, okay, that does look very pelagic. ESK doesn't. Yeah, so I don't know, you can check that one out and report back. How much does it sound like the ocean? Well, last year there was Meridian, I think, as the latest Pelagic Ocean clowne, and they were great. Well, that's the when you recommended to me. Yeah, yeah, that was good. I liked that one. So this is anything like that? Pumped? Yeah, I think it's been getting good reviews. So yeah, all right, that's it. Do we want to just do a one month, every month thing rather than try and do it more regularly and have it the appear in the ass? Yeah, I think month sounds good. Month sounds good to me as well. I'm just looking at February because February there is persephone is Zelinada Venom prison. Could of Luna allegay on roller to Massi, author and punisher, and a whole bunch of other stuff. There's immolation, anamorphous, which can go on the supports or whatever, but there's like this. There's a corn album that came out. So I don't know, maybe we need to need to cull that at this down or something, or we can just talk about them all because we're they're sick. We will figure it out. Yeah, all right. How do we end the podcast? Because I would say my other mole go by Sir, if you got a better idea, I don't know. I was just going to go with something boring like thanks for listening to untitled podcasts with Josh and Carlo and I'll see you next month. Yes, thank you for listening to the Carlo Experience Featuring Josh. We will see what a month by, hopefully not.

In-Stream Audio Search

NEW

Search across all episodes within this podcast

Episodes (10)