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Heavy Blog Review Podcast

Episode 2 · 8 months ago

22-2 Princes of the Reviewniverse

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Headliners: We Broke the Weather, Zeal and Ardor, 
Cult of Luna, Venom Prison

Special Guests: Persefone, Allegaeon, Rolo Tomassi, Author and Punisher, Girish and the Chronicles, Bloodywood

Supports: Immolation, Amorphis, Korn, Wait, Schizophrenia, Akrasia

Cool People Time: Blood Incantation, Black Country New Road

We are to the case. Hi, I won't judge you. I thought that I would just offer a nice puntraps to your sign off. Oh yeah, right, yes, hello, hello, run, hello, Josh, how are you? I'm well. Thank you. And yes, if you get out podcast like dark side of the moon or some shit, if you sink it up like the end, is the beginning, though. That's the wall. The Wall does that at the end. Is the beginning. Yes, so if you play it, color says, I say by and colors is high and it. It all runs together. We still don't have a name for this podcast. What happened to the sound of person reviewers? A real it's well, that was that was the episode, Tule Right, because you kept saying we shall persevere, so I forgot. People should leave us and the general heavy bug blog podcast five star reviews and suggest little review puns that we can use as episode titles and if one of them's good, yeah, we made might stick. Unless my idea for this week is we could be the princes of the review niverse that can record a big inch he like for the highland of theme, and I'll do you like, where the Princess of the reuniverse and people listening to this will know whether I've done that or not. Well, I mean it's a horrible it's horrible, but also that's kind of the point of a Pun. So sure, I guess. Yeah, we hear that color approved. Yeah, how are you? I'm pretty good. I have just returned from some PhD Student Free Faculty Drinks. Oh yeah, so there we go. Then it took until episode two to have slightly inebrated color on the plast I was thinking of sparking way our coffee with some Bailey's, but I refrained. So see how this goes. All right. So then, looking, looking at the obums we're going to talk about. We have the headliners are going to be we broke the weather, Zillon Arda could of Luna and Venom prison, and then we've got special guests for Sephanie, I'll gae on, or a legion if your color, and probably everyone else who's not me. Rollo to Massy Garish in the chronicles, bloody wood and author and Punisha, and then some supports from Emmolitian amorphous corn and wait on. Also, I want to talk about schizophrenia and a crazier the the cool people thing. Did you listen to blood incantation. I did all right. Yeah, but before we get into that, do we want to just to warm up? If you've been listening to anything other than the things we're going to spoke about? Not Really. I've been pretty boring and just sticking to my task of let's listen to February releases and make sure we have something to talk about for the pot thanks. Yeah, I've been. I've been concentrating on that recently as well. Set for today, I've been trying very hard to work out whether or not I like the new ghost album, but we will about that next month. Stay tuned. Holder excitement everyone. All right, let's get into it then, without our head headliner, the the smallest of the the headliners and the smallst band on the bill, a new band, you means, the most important band of the bill. Yeah, well, we're putting them off here because because we think they deserve it. o this is we broke the weather. A band, a proggy band that we're going to talk about. That we do have to do the disclaimer that this is the band featuring nick from heavy blog on saxophone as the sexy sex man, yes, and occasional vocal here and there. You don't know Nick. He's the one who writes far too much about the deer hunter in his prog notes. Is a room one of those four years, though, right. Yeah, but he's he's famous for them among the D hunter community, and you may also know him as the one that mind melds with Eddin. They are one and the same much of the time. O. Yes, okay, I have not picked that up, but I don't know. I we just to assuage accusations of nepotism or whatever. I don't know nick at all. We've chatted like twice. Yeah, it was we bondered over our mutual love of the last fucked up album that came out last year and yeah, applement about why everyone else didn't love it as much as us. And that's about the only interaction I've had the neck. He seems Nice. Yeah, I tend to agree. I haven't had spoken to him much more than that, and usually the things that he likes and listens to is not so much up my alle but his band seems to be the exception. Yes, so this is alder. Not Not to put nick down and say we don't have anything to do with this, is to say that going to this. This isn't like, yeah, we love Nick, we love Nick's music, we're all about nick. Yeah, Nick, yeah, where I think you and I generally have pretty differing tastes from from Nick. And I have you to thank for putting me on to this band, because I am no longer on facebook and the facebook group where I apparently he shared it and people were talking about it. I had no idea this albument come out until you posted in the slack and said, Oh hey, I check this out and I didn't know what to expect, but I was just checking out because Nixon, and actually it's really good. I went all, well, if it's actually really good, no, I will listen to it as and I had...

...the exact same reaction. This album's incredible. Yeah, it is self titled and the Band is we broke the weather. So very, very subtle there. I wonder what they could possibly be talking about. And so tell me, Josh, what do you like about this record? Everything? Um, yeah, I don't I don't really know. I think this is to just get the big conclusion out of the way. This is my second favorite album of the year so far, after fit for an autopsy, and they are very indifferent sounding albums. I think there is. For me at least, there is a clear demarcation between I think fit for an autopsy is a better than this, but that is also a veteran genre defining band, really seeing like as genre classic. Ohman, this is the debut from yeah, a small band. This really wasn't what I was expecting. I think I had checked out one of we worke the weather's songs previously, like maybe a few years back now. It's to be a while ago, because I was still on facebook. I think nick just posted are we shot a video? He's our song, and I checked it out and I remember being nothing like this. I remember being kind of like in Green. Yeah, so that's I'm not just making that. They did have a song that sounded like they did. Yes, all right, and I like in a forest or something. Yeah, I think there's a waterfall evolved. Yeah, so I'd listen to that. So that's sort of what I was expecting going into this, like something, yeah, more indie leading, and this is this is Proggi prog rock. Yes, so I would say that this is a record that proudly wears its influence, its influences on its sleeves, but it does those influences justice and it combines them in fresh and interesting ways. So if you're even remotely interested in genres like New Jazz, fusion, Math Rock, post struck prog, be at old school, sort of seventy style program more modern d hunter, thank you scientists, all Prog, then you should definitely check this record out. And I'm not particularly enamored with any of those genres in and of themselves, but the way that they fuse them to get here really works for me. Yeah, I am a little bit surprised to he going so far for the for the math course, I think the thank you scientist reference where I think of them as kind of a Zany groovy Jammy band, like I don't think this is very similar to that at all. But I'm not that familiar with thank you scientist. Just what I have in my head of them is not what I have to is. The big one for me, like this, is classic Prog, like Prog Rock. Like the big one for this is rush. There are riffs on here where I'm like that's a Russia with a note change. That's where that's come from, which is how to say it's derivative but it's like, I see how you got to this point by just jamming some rush songs. There's a real giddily esque vocals at times without being, as you know, ridiculous as as rush yet. But the other big one for me that I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Have Famili you are with them? But caven, yes, I've only heard, like I'm vaguely familiar with them. I've listened to one of their records one or two times. Right, would you happen to know which records they work? That's very important when it comes to cave in and no, unfortunately. Right, so every cave in record sounds different to every other cave in record, or every two cave in records sound different to every other cave in record. And obviously with this one I'm going for their their prog period, which was their their second or their third, depending on what you count. But I Jupiter, which is often considered the classic, and then there's an EP that came along with that, as it tides of tomorrow or cre I think I'm thinking of creative exclipses. But yeah, Jupiter, Arra Cave in Prog, arri cave in, which, I guess, is where some of that math core stuff comes in, but more, yeah, more of that old rock whether. This really reminded me of that, and I'm not a huge I prefer later caven actually, but yeah, reminded me a lot of that Roman a cave in rush and like a bit of Radio head. I don't really like Radio head, but I can hear it in there. It's a yeah, it's this big blend and it's great. HMM. There's even like some some fuzz in there as well, like some elder style, even some garage your psych type riffs and production. At times. I think this was sort of like promoted as like a psychedelic was the word that kept coming out, and I was sort of taken by how how restrained it was. Like when you say Psychedelic, I think of something like, is that band from Perth that everyone like, Taman Pola? Yes, something like that, something really fuzzed out or, yeah, trippy man, whereas this is it's really technical, it's really proggy, but it's it's very melodic and it's really like clear and well constructed. HMM, and it doesn't just me and there aimlessly for long periods at a time like you're they're taking you back to the hook or back to something more grounded in a reasonable pit amount of time that you're never sort of getting lost. Yeah, that that's a great call. That's that. There's hooks and then like there's huge choruses, but the hooks aren't always the choruses. There's like riffs and movements they bring in, HMM, and yeah, they're there is like a ten minute song towards the end the fog, which is really good, and then I think there's a there's an eight minute some of the re rest of us. Yeah,...

...it's around like five four minutes. So it's fairly, fairly concise for a prog record, and I think that's a point of difference. I mean, I guess the other reference point for me that makes me like this, and I don't know how much of that's there were versus. I just think everything that sounds like this sounds like them. But do you know, you know Beid Fish? No, never heard of them being for sure a Swedish prog band. I think I may have broken up and then the main guy does some sorry stuff now, but they're on the void from two thousand and twelve, which is easily like their heaviest most metal album. That is a big album for me, but I keep going back to it's like a real corner stone album, but it has become like any time I hear a modern prog I'm like, oh, it sounds like bead fish, and I don't know how much of that is like an actual beard fish influence or distinctive sound versus just they're the only one problem band, I know and I listened to yeah, but there is there is something distinctive and it's normally the Swedish voice. But yeah, we work the weather out Swedish, but there's something about the opening track on that we work the other whether album that reminds me a bit fish, the void Ara bead fish, and that is never a bad thing. Yeah, I guess the last thing I have to say about this is nick is killing it. The saxophone on this album is great. It's not like obvious saxophones, like a big thing in progreate the moment. Normally shows up here and there as a guest spot, but this is like he's a member of the band. It's all throughout the album and I think it's never superfluous. It's like a real foundational core or part of their sound. Yeah, and one thing that Nick and the blog more broadly has been pretty critical of, a saxophone has become more prominent in metal over the last five years or so. Is, yes, they're bringing in the saxophone to play the exact same note a guitar would have played in the bridge, whereas here it's Interwaven, like you say, and it's not just taking the place of another instrument, but it's adding something distinct to the music. Yeah, and I think that is probably because, like, he is a member of the band, like so he's part of that. He's not just yet brought into do something here and anyone else could do it. And Yeah, the other thing with like the saxophone is it's always it's doing the Jordan monkly thing, like, if it's not him, it's people trying to imitate him and like he's great baby. It's you get that same style over and over again. We need nick showing up on the next rivers of nail things getting in there, or nick guest spots. Let's do it. So, yes, a small album, an album that we have some kind of connection to through the blog, but I think, yeah, easily the best album of the month is we broke the weather. Check it out. So let what's next? We'll go to cult of Luna, the long road north. You want to go to cold of Luna? I think that's the biggest release in metal circles. Let's do it, putting on an actual festival with this lineup. Maybe they would be the proper headliner. So let's go to cult of lunar. What's your history with cult of Luna, Josh, my history with could of order I actually know. I want to ask your history with cult of Wirda, because I'm sort of under the impression that you don't have much of one and really that into them. Yeah, that's fair enough. So I'm pretty indifferent towards them. The first time I really check them out was mariner, when that sort of blew up, especially among our circle and heavy blog, and I thought that was pretty good and I've listened to their record since then. And noy and loves to talk about boring metal being anything that is remotely slow in Tempo, and cult of lunar sort of borders on the edge of is it boring metal or is it actually kind of interesting? And so that's that's my background coming into this record. So so of you. You're aware of them, you've never really gone. All right, yeah, I was. I was much like you. I think with cold of lunar, the the tow very distinct periods of cold of Luda, there's modern cold of luner and there's not classic, called of Luna, but older, called a Luter, and that turning point is is vertical in two thousand and thirteen. I think that's the start of their modern period. That was the industrial sort of influence one. I think it's based on metropolis as in the films, or that brutalism esthetic, and that's that's where I sort of jumped on board. So prior to that I'd heard of them, I'd sort of dipped in, like you were saying, I'm just gone. You're not for me. I'm not really into post rock post metal. And the vertical came out and sometimes you just get a feeling about an album, and this is one of those where I had a feeling about it and I was like yeah, I'm going to check out that cold of lunar album and I loved it. I think it's an incredible album, and I I mean I think, since it's release, it is considered a modern genre classic. That and and Arina are sort of the too big modern post metal releases. I mean they are. They're the big modern post metal band, right. HMM, that's right. Yeah, I sais broke, I broken up, and neurosis is still around with their sort of a classic cult band like yeah, called a lunar at, the big name in post metal, to the point where even you and I are listening to them. Because, yes, this is not the sort of thing I mean to not a usual wheelhouse. Yeah, yeah, loved vertical. Check out marina and and I think Marin is great. I totally understand why it's considered a classic, the classic, but it is an album that I sort of appreciate more than personally engaged in. The one for me is their last album from two thousand and nineteen, adorned to fear, HMM, which, in retrospect maybe should have, or at least could have, been my elm of the year. Who Big, cool? Yeah, I can't remember...

...what was. I used to have all my list but then I got my hard driver replaced and I've lost them. Are What Year was? Two Thousand and nineteen? Is that half? Let me have a look. Hang on, Oh, I can just look it up on the block. We've got a blog for this. Yes, so I had two thousand and nineteen, fit for an autopsy. North Lane has wolf, forged leprous and processed, etc. White Wood. Oh, yeah, white would was that year as well as I think this came in fifth or six on my official list. Let's see. Yeah, so I had half cattle decapitation, which, yeah, I'd probably take that over the over totally. That marina love and hate, which it was a big Olm for me that year, but I probably tripped down killswitch engaged arder cool tool, cold of lunar at number seven and I think. And then white would. Yeah, I definitely could have learned would make the top three. Now in retrospect, like that record was an honorable mention for me. Didn't make my list, but wasn't far from it. I don't fear yea. Oh, okay, so you've doubled a bit more than you were leading on. Like they're not. They're not bed yeah, like post medals not my thing, but if I have to listen to post metal, I'm choosing them. Yeah, and I think that the big change with the dawn to fear is they brought in a lot of melody. So the song sort of were more I don't think they stood out more, but they were more distinct, like this is the moment, that part. But I thought it, for me it was the the most varied album, even the ones that I liked. I mean maybe mariner, but vertical is just you're in that brutalism mood and that's the mood you're in for the album, whereas I don't feel it has a distinctive mood. But you know, it's a journey then. So I really like that album. But art apparently I was the only one, at least within our circles. Got A lot of people saying that it was a bit of a letdown after Mariner. Right, yeah, Jimmy reviewed this one for us and said vertical and don't fear, suffered the imbalance of front loading an album with with an epic and immediately rememorable track, only to drop the tempo out meander for an hour beyond. And Nick echoed this in the Post Rock Post, saying that those albums were pendulous, dragging on without enough in Petest to warrant them. And I think both both of those rights at least have seen this as a return to form of sorts. Yeah, yeah, Jimmy wrote in his review that. Conversely, the long road north is an intoxicating record that is filled with purpose and intend highlights, giving mariner a run for its money as the band's magnum opus. And that seems to be yet the vibe that's going around that the heavy blogsphere. For me, you could do a fine and replace on a dawn to fear and the new album and just flip them. Yeah, as I've said, the dawn to fear should have been my elm of the year was. I love the variation, I love the variety of it and I think the long road north is really boring and one note and bloody. So see, I'm this is my favorite cult of lunar record. Right, that's far okay. Sell me with Marina. The Julie Christmas was the guest vocalist, if I recall, and her voc like she's a great vocalist, but her tone is just not a tone I enjoyed personally, and so I loved the idea and the concept. It's and with another vocal I would have really gotten into that. But it's just one of those things here this is. This is where the cult of lunar package sort of coalesces for me, and I feel like the touch zone that I keep coming back to here is the ocean. Like this is the most ocean sounding, Non Ocean Record I've heard and whilst not being a post metal guy, I hesitate to even really call the ocean post metal per se, given the sort of ECLECTIC influences that they draw from. But I absolutely love them and this is right than that ballpark. They've got some electronic influences in there, there's some sacks at times, which is a nice addition. They've got still some female cleaner vocals in there, which is a tone, a different tone to Julian one, that I really like. And so for me there's a lot of dynamism to this record that was perhaps lacking for me in the past, and I feel like it's got more reply value than the previous eerations that I've heard. Now, in saying that, there is a little bit of a, I guess, hypocrisy here, a bit of a contradiction perhaps is a better way of putting it, in that on the one hand I feel like I like the variation that I'm hearing here, but on the other hand, there are also protracted sections at a sort of trans like and not trans as in the genre, but they put me into a trance with the repetition and the going going through the same sort of vibe for a protracted time. But it's working for me and the way this is shaping up, probably a top fifteen album of the year, I'd say at this stage. Yeah, no, it's definitely me out of step in this is just getting rave reviews and I seem to be the only one going like I'm literally at times I'm like, are we listening to the same alt because everything you've said, it sounds great and I am just not getting it from this, and I'm sort of glad. I'm glad you brought up the ocean for two reasons. One, you reminded me. Yes, I think this sounds like the ocean, but also I am having a very similar experience with this album as I was with the first friend of zoik album, the Paleozoic, the good one, you mean? Well, yes, I this is the point. I that album was, I think was lots of people's albums the year, that year, mine included. Yeah, you...

...were big on it. And what's the one before play Jill, which is like incredible, the album of the decade. Yep, chloe, it's that, and let live as the blackest beautiful for me, which came out the same year. So it's like those two. Ebay, which one is it? Yeah, that Ol my. I hold it is high esteem and I really enjoyed the last one. But yeah, everyone was raving about Paleozoic when it came out and I'm like, I'm just not hearing it. I put it on and I just sort of drift off, and not in this trancelike way that you're saying. It just does not grab my attention and it does not hold my attention when it does, because they keeps being I put this on and I just sort of an out and drift and then there is there is one bit. It's always the same bit and it comes in. There's like a cool riff. I girl, that's a cool riff and I always think I should check what song that is. I never do, and so for that this like one moment grabs the only album. I don't know what it is. Yeah, I don't know. It's not doing it for me and I think maybe that is I wrote this in the voice stay around up top picks that maybe it's just because down in Melbourne were in the middle of a thirty five degree everyday summer and called a learner is not really like suiting the married. Yep, it's one that I keep saying I'm maybe I'll come back to it, but I kept going back to Pale Azo. I can it never grow on me. So I don't know, but I'm glad you enjoyed it, because I was a bit worried. This is when I put up there because I like hold of Learner. It's the big album and I didn't think you were really into him and I was just going to come on here and go yet boring and you were going to go yeah, why do you make me listen to it? So I'm glad you liked it, though I do have to say we're talking about this is like original and innovative and very it opens with the big wop sound that's on every movie trailer. I think that's a big putoff for me. Yeah, maybe trailer is a great though. They opened with it for a reason. Jotl the WAF. Yeah, I don't think you could do a laugh anymore. I'm a bit of Yes, I guess that's that's called of learner. I'll go back to it. We'll see, but for me, yeah, kind of the first big disappointment of the year, but it does seem to be the problems me, not them. Do we want to move on, then, to Zeelnada? Can we talk about them? Yes, and this is self titled as well, I believe. Yes, the Lanada, the album Zelanada, their second or third or fourth kind of album, is like two EPS, but they may as well be albums whatever. So I'm going to throw to you again, because Zelonad are a band that I sort of think. My impression is you have a similar relationship with them as called of lunar. Is that correct? Yeah, so this is one that I have. I've followed them since they came onto the scene. Devil is fine was the debut, if I recall, and there are a few songs on there that I really liked and and the rest of it was fine, and so I thought this is a band that has potential. I like the broad ideas they're playing with here, but it's not quite coming together for me. And then on stranger fruit, I feel like most of the blog jumped on board and I was like, yes, they've put it all together. This is amazing and I probably liked it less than I did devil is fine and it didn't click for me. And and wake of a nation was good but short. And here we are with the the self titled. Yeah, the narrative was you on. Our seems to be how they keep getting better, better, better. Stranger fruit is such a big improvement and I'm sort of very short to hear you say that you didn't think so, because I am also one of those widows who thinks devil is fine is still maybe the best thing they've ever done. I think I like it more than you. You were saying parts of a word for you. I just think it's pretty rock solid. Definitely still has my favorite songs on the like there. What's the the river, the blood and the river one whatever, some yet is that's it banger and it just like it sounds evil. I like that it's short and concise because my main prom with stranger fruit is like this. Some incredible stuff on stranded fruit. It's way too down long, like it's like twenty tracks or something, right and it doesn't I don't think it's as varied as the EP. I think that that release he did hone in on what is the core sound of Zelmata, but then sort of lost some of the wild, unrestrained sort of danger to it. Yeah, so I liked that album but yeah, it wasn't as bold over with it as a run else and I actually think the the live album they put out, the versions of the songs on their sounds way better. I haven't heard the live album actually. Yeah, it's just the productions just a bit raw or I think it bring much. I did see them live when they came to Australia. Think it wasn't like a pub in north kt or something like very small room and they came out in the cloats and stuff. They were okay. Well, sort of one of those gigs where was maybe more trouble than it was worth. Right that they were that bad. It was just they were a bad they played. I showed up, I saw them by went home. So yeah, didn't have that transcendent live Zileonada experience that people sort of talk about wake of a nation. I saw, listen to what somewhere I that's not the side of Zillonada. But I really go to I like the big, chanty, evil we're raising Satan songs, MMM, which I think this album has a lot of, among other things. So I'm still a little conflicted over it, but it is, I would probably say, my favorite the record of there's thus far. So they haven't fully converted me, but I'm a step closer than I was and I suspect that might be perhaps for different reasons than you. So there are. There are some great tracks on here like, for example, golden liar through to feed the machine. I'm just like yes, this is great,...

...song after Song smashing it and for me where they really shine those where he's using his disordered clean vocals and that sort of Husky bluesy voice is really, really good. And wherever that vocal is put in the center, I'm really enjoying it. The the dreamy as shoegazy parts, which they only dabbled in, didn't really work for me, and the black metal parts are fine. I don't think they're great and think they're bad. They're nice for a bit of diversity but probably not having as much impact as I would like. So overall I still think there's some really cool and interesting ideas that they're playing with, but for the most part I'm there for the Blues Sections and the rest of it is I'm waiting for the rest of it to catch up to the quality of the Blues Essentially. Yeah, I think I feel very similarly about it to you overall. But yeah, as we sort of suggested, maybe for coming at it from a different angle, it's the black metal stuff on this is doing it for me. I think that blue stuff's good, but it's the it sounds about as good as they've done the blue stuff in the past maybe, whereas I think he's the black metal stuff. He's really got a hold on it here. What's that? Church Burns, which is the the BEA chanty one. Just that's that's what I'm here for, that's what I come to Z and aff but yeah, stuff like run and got a dumb wrong and and stuff really great as well. I totally agree with you about the shoegay stuff. That is where it loses me, Yep, because there's there's a new metal song on this film. As it I caught you. I wouldn't even say there's a new metal song. I feel like the whole record has like a real new metal vibe to it at times. It's got that chuggy thing. Yet that sort of almost like slowed down fear factory riffing. But he does go back to that a little too often. I think it gets a bit repetitive, like like it sounds good each time, but then when you listen to it all together, it's like he's doing the dinner did a bit again. Yeah, I think is it is I caught you. That's the new metal. You One? Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I'm on listening to it right now. Like the start of I caught you sounds like the opening of like it's on by corn or some shit. Yep, I think that works really well and I don't know what the broad response to Zelonada doing a new metal or and new know I float song, but that really jumped out to me and and also as like that's throwing back to the devilis find thing of like just put whatever in there, whatever sort of works, go for it. Yeah, and I think the new metal works really well with that, that bouncy chant thing, whereas it's the gaysy electronic atmospheric stuff that just feels tacked onto me. Yeah, I agree. There's the two songs at the end, is it? There's the one in the middle it's Amersion that just goes on for way too long. I don't know. There's like three tracks. They don't really say anything, they're just sort of thrown in there. I find they really disrupt the flow and it just sorts to seems to be like Oh, this atmospheric side of black metals Tremy, so we'll put it in there. I don't know. They seemed like demos or shelves of songs rather than like a fully realized idea of how to incorporate that into into Zelonada. Although I find overall that the flow of this album is really frustrating in general. Like I was saying, church Burns is awesome and and I caught you wish the email on but their tracks nine and ten, and I think you're saying your favorite run was before that. But I'm sort of like, why am I hearing Church Burn Ten tracks in? Why do I have to wait this long for it to hit that sort of peak? And I've done that thing that I do where I I've spent the last month trying to rearrange this album so that the next better, which your fair. If anyone out there listenings aread my views, reviews and those is the thing I do occasionally. But I do think sequencing is a big part of an album because, and I normally do it when I'm listening to him, when I go I know this is good, but it's just not grabbing me. But yes, something there I've been trying to do with this one. I can't get its work because it's true, all over the place, but also, like you're saying, with those blue songs, there's too many of them. There's I think it's you got the Zelonada Intro, you got Golden Liar and then there there's another one is the bow or it's the sort of like okay, you've got you've got three slow loloesy songs in an album of otherwise like wild black metals, like where do you put them? Because every time they come in the mood of the album shifts and then then the blackmails very repetitive. I don't know. This, yeah, feels very similar to devil is fine to me, where I love the wildness of it, but it does feel unrefined, I guess. MMM, which says to me what's Leonada really need is an editor, and I think that's true of yeah, Stranger Fruit being twenty tracks long and this being sort of just unwieldly. Is because what's what's the main guy's name is? It's Manuel, something French sounding, Manuel gag new. Yeah, sure, you go with that. Yeah, I mean they's sort of a band, but it's a oneman project, like he's the guy. But I think, I think we need a collaborator in here. Think he needs to find he's out of cuss for us, or whoever, or even just a producer, like it doesn't have to be a band member. That's true, then that someone to say maybe we don't need this, maybe we need more of that. Pick your favorite post shoegas track. will put that one on. Yeah, what's just trying to see. Who produced this? Reduced far by him. Yes, are self produced, I think. Yeah, maybe working with someone.

I don't want them to like temper it down too much, like I do like that. This is a a more varied record that stranger fruit, which self felt like in refining that sounded done away with a lot of the appeal. But well, that's the thing. It's not. It's not that the ideas are bad, there's just too many ideas and we need to remove some of them. Yes, so that the rest of them can shine brighter. I'M AD reviewed this one for heavy blog, saying that, as Leonora, the album feels more like a stepping stone record, one that explores new ground and strikes gold a fair few times, but doesn't fully feel like the best possible realization of their sound quite yet. In other words, it's a certainly a good release but ultimately can feel like a bit more time on the editing floor away from being a great album, and I think that is a much more accurate and measured the response than a lot of the other reviews where I've seen people ready to go and I'm like, Oh, this is the best album I've ever done and everything, which maybe it is, but yeah, I don't think this is the finished product. Agreed, and that's coming from, I believe Ahmed was quite high on stranger fruit. That was one of his albums of the yeah, I am excited by this because I was sort of a little bit out of it by the time wake of a nation came around. It was I sort of felt like they did stranger fruit and that's like as far as he was going to take it, and this go is on her. It's he's not just going to do the same sound again, there's still the experimentation. So yeah, I'm excited by the so, but I don't think it'll be shown up on my interview list or anything. Yeah, I agreed. None on my list, but not a band that I'm discarding. I will still continue to check out whenever they whatever they put out. All right, I'll final headliner for this month is Venom prison. He I was going to say a smaller band, but I guess maybe they're a bigger band now based on this album. I'm not sure. This has been, yeah, one of one of the most discussed albums of the year, metal albums at the year, I think it. Would you just say that's fair? M Yeah, Venom prison, which struck me as a band that are way more up my alle than your a lie, and I believe that is that is correct. Yep. Do you want to give your what I'm assuming is a very brief history with that in prison? Yeah, so I first came to know of them with their previous release, Sam Sara, if I recall, and all I remember from listening to that was ah Abracive band. That's not for me. So they got a lot of hype on heavy blog, but just did not click at all. I gave it a few lessons but yeah, didn't. Didn't enjoy it. It's a lot. Yeah, no, I came to them on the on their debut Panamas, I think it's called. Hmm Yeah, from two thousand and sixteen, which much like Selanader. I think I'm in the minority of thinking maybe this is still their best release, just because it's war and more exciting. But that have you gone back to that album at all now? It's quite different from Sam sorrow. Sam Sarah is a death metal death metal last death metal record full of death metal. MMMM anamust really has a lot more hardcore to it right, more in the song structures and songwriting. Like it still sounds like a death moon, but there's a lot more beat down as a lot more that like getting vocal sort of things, that it has this real, like bludgeoning sound to it, and I think that's a really cool unique sound. With Sam sorrow, for me they got rid of some of that unique us but I think the point of that, I was to just be as extreme and Abrasive as possible, as violent as possible, and they definitely pulled that off and I totally understand why people revere Sam Sara because I could it succeeds holy and what it was trying to be. Was One of the ones that was sort of the outlier on my end of your list, if I recall correctly, I was like, I want to get it in there, but it just didn't click with me enough personally. But I do like it. But yeah, it's a lot. And then they had primeval from two thousand and twenty, which was a compilation of their previous EPS, though I, like a lot of people, was like, Oh, I haven't heard this before. It's essentially a new album. I think they re recorded it, but it does sound more in line, especially now that we've got to air bus, like it makes sense as an in between Samsara two Arabus jump more than a pre animus album, right, because the the last two tracks on that, if you listen to it all. No, so the last two tracks on that when new songs that had clean singing, clean vocals on them, which is something that had done before and they were very, very good in the response to that alum was hey, more of this please, which brings us to Arab us, and I believe it was now. I think it was the second single pain of OISI's, which isn't about the time as he has bomb crashed. He's quite bike. But yes, we is a slow piano led song with a lot of clean singing and people like okay, and I think that led to a lot of heart and discussion, which I think there was a real fervor around this album before it came out. Is that we seeing and feeling that as well. There's definitely some hype on leading into it and, whilst I hadn't come across the compilation in between, I think even just on the back of Sam Sarah, people were people were pumped and they were ready for more. Yeah, they're almost a not quite mainstream, but like a breakthrough big heavy metal band, which is pretty exciting for this like, yeah, really extreme band club genre. This, you know, violent feminist imagery and all of that. It's cool stuff. So, yeah, if this had just been another Sam sorry, any were like I'm not really into it, I would have just put it in the supports and going yeah, it's it's another veto prisoner and what's really good. I did it,...

...but there's not much to say. This is a very different album, I think so. Yeah, I do want to get your thoughts? Is this doing anything for you? So my my opening note on this was, Hey, this is actually pretty good, and I was starting to wonder, have I just forgotten was some Sarah sounded like, or did have they shift pivoted and shifted the direction on this one, because it's a lot more melodic and dynamic than I remember Sam Sarah being. And that's not to say it is not riffs. There are some banging riffs on here. There are a lot of riffs, yes, but it's there's a lot of variation. There's a few other influences thrown in, like some electronics here and there, and I enjoy the fact that they're not afraid to now and then dial it down, pair back the tempo, go a bit more mellow, throw in some cleans and so this is a record that I want to give more time and check out, if you more times, which is like with Sam Sarah, I gave it a few lessons out of obligation, almost because everyone else liked it so much. I like I need, I need to at least give it the shot, whereas here I actually want to give it a shot. So when, when was it? Sort of when you were writing the note of Hey, this is pretty good do was it straight from the get go, or was there a song that pushed you over? At what point where you like okay, I think I'm into this. It was nemesis. So track that's interesting, becautroversial track among everyone. I really I don't think it's a terrible song. I think the main rest pretty cool. I think the blatant slipknot a thing is pretty shameless. The I am the damage one thing which is straight from yeah, was it the blister exists, which I think might be my favorite slipknot song. But think it would have been cool if they threw it in there as a single line. As Ah, that's a pretty cool nod. I get it. I see what you're doing to make that the hook of your song and just be like yeah, we came up with that. I'm like, Oh, I don't know, guys. So I'm not completely sold on on Nemesis. I do think it is one of the weaker moments on the album. The reason I asked, like at what point was because I figured it either be yeah, paint and pain of as these, or Oise, he's or however you say it. We're like that's where the experimentation comes in, but for me it's everything after that that I really like about this album. I think the second half of this is so much stronger than the first. Is that you sound, you're like you're vibing more with the early parts of the album all the that was the moment where I thought, okay, this is different, that I should pay more attention than perhaps I otherwise would have, and but it held my attention throughout its whole run time. Yeah, for me, I think the the second half of the album is way less diverse than the first half of the album, which is where you get in this more melodic stuff, you and experimentation. The second half is a little more straightforward, but I feel like they're incorporating little pieces into the sound, like more, I guess, seamlessly, whereas in the first half it's like, okay, now he's the piano song, here is the Slipnot Song. Where is the second half sounds like ven in prison, but with a few different elements the the main one of which is these guys have been listening to arch enemy. That is what has happened here part. There is so much art to me on this album and I get very wary of saying that about like any extreme metal band with a female vocalist, because it's like will just because Angela Gosso's the biggest and she like you know, not everyone sounds like her and there are extreme metal vocalists that don't sound like Angela Cossar. Larissa stupart sounds like Angela Gossar in her delivery and are phrasing in a turn and everything, and that that's not a bad thing. That's a it's a very like distinct influence. But if it was just her, I wouldn't even bother mentioning it. The guitar playing on this is so much Mark Amet in the the soloing and the riffing. It just sounds like, yeah, they've gone to midpair period arch enemy and just been putting that on repeated on. Yeah, we can do that, and someone who loves mid period arch enemy, I am all about that. It's there's a bit of caucus in there as well, but I think, yeah, this is I don't think I quite say they're alot of death metal badness. This is still death metal, but the melodic death metal influence, the arch enemy, specific melodic death metal and fills here because it's that very European like, not quite power metal, but that traditional heavy metal guitar heroics like the shredding on this album is is insane, and that is the abit brothers from arch enemy like this. This doesn't sound like in flames or doctrine quality. The sounds like arch enemy and I like it very good. I'm having said that, as much as I like everything that's going on, the second of the album, this album is a whole, is not really clicking in with me. I think it is because I find the first half of it rather sloppy. Yeah, just doesn't really grab me until halfway through and I really wish they push some of the experimentation further. Another trademark, Josh reordering. Is that? What is that? What's on the no, I don't think, sir, but I think much like Zellanatic because, yeah, again with the reviews of this I've seened like this is it, this is a modern classic and they're doing it all, and I was like, I don't think they. Yeah, I think they different their toes in. Yeah, I wouldn't call it the classic. I wouldn't go there. First, I want to see pain of Uzz he's not just be one song on an album that sticks...

...out like the saw of thumb or that they have dipped in the water to, yeah, be incorporated more. When the electronics are there, it's good. So, yeah, I'd be down for more of that. Yeah, I think. I think overall, this is for me, maybe their weakest album, just because I think the first two really a hundred percent on what they were trying to achieve, but they certainly weren't as ambitious as this. And this is a very interesting and intriguing elm, if not quite the fruition of what they're trying to achieve. I think. Anything more to add and I think we're ready for our special guests. All right, I think I want to start with persephone because I debated putting them in the headliners, because PERSEIFONI's previous album, athema from two thousand and seventeen, was my loved it. That was my elm of the year for two thousand and seventeen. Yes, yeah, yeah, everyone can have good taste, folks. Well, this is this is another one where I'm out of step, but I'm just looking at people who don't like this album, which seems to be ever on a heavy block, but me, I'm just going. What, what are you talking about? It's great and I conversely, I was sort of out of step with spiritual migration from two thousand and thirteen, which I know is a very revered album around the heavy block parts, which I think is good, but it never really clicked with me. It's sort of much like your experience with Sam Sara or Venom prison. Spiritual migration is still am I put it on, I'm just like Whoa with the Prog, whereas that where I like, yeah, man, songs and Shit, let's do traced in are all right, let's go. So I loved Athma and was looking forward to yeah, metanoia. So you did not like athma color? I am gathering no, although, to be fair, I don't know whether it's the case of persephone. Is Music sort of declining, or my tastes in progue shifting, because I have definitely moved sort of away from their style of progue in general, and it's sort of hard for me to delineate how much of it is them changing and how much of it is me changing, because I really enjoyed spirit ritual migration. That was one of my favorite years, sorry, one of my favorite records in the year that it came out and the the bombast, the full progress of it was right up my alley. And then in Athma I just felt like things went astray a little bit. Yeah, that seems to be the narrative around it within our circles. It just to me Athma seems like such a refinement and where, whether you like one or not, like that's completely subjective, an opinion, but like hearing it described as like where the prog went off. I'm like you, have you heard? What's the one before that? Everyone like spiritual migration, like, have you heard that? That is just like noodling for like an hour. And Yeah, bombast is a great word for it, whereas I think with Athma there's like the huge malady, there's the cynic influence, there's a lot more. I feel like the song sort of flow together or it just seems like a more intentional record, I guess. And whether you like that, I'll prefer it. It just it's like when people describe the hunter as master Don's black album. It's like the opposite of that. That narrative, that that is the stripped down, simplified arena mastered on our mom like no, that's the one where they just progged out and forgot to write songs. HMM, I sort of have the reverse on that, fathma. That's what we think about previous PERSEVENI albums. We have a new persephone album and Eden Almighty editor in chief, who, yes, I think is in your camp, love spiritual migration, was disappointed by Athm. He wrote this up for the prognosis procol and said that persephone, he was pleased that Persepni had returned to the more aggressive and uniquely explosive style of spiritual micro should sound. But have drawn on many of the sounds and turns that Athma tried to make it center, but here they work incredibly as scaffolding and support for the main sort of sound that persephone are going for. and much like Jimmy's a review of cult of lunar, I think you can do a find a replace on this and and put my name at the bottom of it, because I agree this is a reversion to spiritual more migration, but I don't see a lot of athma carried through in this. And Yeah, this is I like this more than spiritual migration and I was very excited by it when I first heard it. But it is not sticking with me. It's doing that thing where it's just all prog all the time. I don't know, it's a lot. I find it very overwhelming. How are you feeling about it? So the the line that will probably best resembles what you just said, is I wrote this should be right up my alley, but the riffs and melody is just aren't sticking. Okay, I think it's very good. The opening riff of Katabasis, the first song. However, you say that that's awesome. I love that. That's stuck with me and and that song overall, which is just a rifter of an heavy song, is cool. But yeah, there I just find it means and I don't sell album has a lot of identity to it. I think Athma and spiritual migration definitely do. When it's on, I enjoy it and then it finishes and I'm like yeah, I haven't retained anything. Well, I was about to say like it's pleasant when it's going, and the riffs, I feel like they're pretty good consistently all the way through, but it just feels like there's something missing. It's just not quite coming together. Yeah, one of the big sort of I was going to say a bit flag, but I don't know. Something that sticks out to me is the the opening song, met it, like, the title track has...

...on a Solberg from leprous, like and he's not a guest, he is the main vocal on that track and he opens the song. and to open your album with this distinctive vocalist from another band and have him be the lead vocal like, that's not a show of confidence to me. One of my main takeaways was I didn't know I wanted this, but now I want to hear I know, ever progressive death metal album. I had always a leprous right. Yeah, but they're not death anymore. So, yes, they're more black it anyway. Yeah, and and even their brand of prog is very different to this brand of prog. Yeah, I don know, it doesn't really work for me. I go the other way where I'm like no, I think I know works with Lepros and I think either he's great, but this is, this is too much for his like floaty cool ethereal vocals and then they're in the background. God, I don't are doesn't really Meld for me. But it was more that like that was they were putting forward and that just sort of screams to me. will go listen to Lepress Yep, because I have not listened last lepress elbm enough, and I should. You should. It's great. This is an album that I liked and I kept waiting for it to click with me, but it hasn't really, and I think it's I'm going to forget it. Yeah, I fully agree. The the only song that really sort of captures my attention is mayor Kaba in the middle, which has the big Hook in the chorus. You want to give us us? You want sing it first? Absolutely not. I may be inebriated, but not that. Anyway, it's all right, I it sounds like I'm more down on this than I am. I think it's a album. It's just yet it hasn't struck with me, considering how much I love their last O. MMM all right, where do you want to go next? Should we do ALGA on Leegim? Yeah, sure, let's do that. So who on earth named this band? Honestly, were you twelve? Yeah, why? Because a on is like a word, right, and they're definitely trying to appeal to a on. So Alegaon, but maybe it's meant to be a silent feel like it is definitely meant to be a legion, but they just want they just thought. You know what, how can we make it really hard for people to find our band when searching for it online? I know, let's spell it like this, all really easy, but then, because they're the only one that's felt like that, but then it makes it very difficult for podcasts who have only ever read this word. I'm sticking with algay on, and if that's wrong, I don't care, because it's there are damn fault that I say it that way. So this is this is a bit of a weird one because, as I was saying to color before we started, I sort of forgot this album existed and did not really listen to it before the podcast. So I don't really have that many in depth things to say about it, but I will give my overall impression. Then color can go for the big dive. But in terms of history with ALGA and I will go first this time because I really like Aligaon, or I did. I jumped on board with its form shifter, I think. Is that from like two thousand and ten or something? Yeah, which I and and elements of the infinite are still two albums that I just adore. Sometimes I band just like has your number and form shift are Alga odor that for me it's just like, Oh, you aren't like all this proggy, techy death meddling, but they like we're just going to stop and drop the biggest, heaviest stomping Chimera if ever at the end of every song, and I like yes, please, and then it just no matter what they do. I'm just like that. I'd love you, guys. That's shift an elements of the infinite for me. And then with their subsequent albums, that seems like they got more and more proggy. I guess that one after it was really proggy and I like that. I'm a lot, but it didn't really stick with me. And then the last one I had a bit of the persephone called a lunar effect, where I popped a pop tiosis whatever, man apoptosis, that one. I'm sure it was very good. This is an ELM. I'm going to go back to one danger. Oh my God, this is incredible. I'm an idiot that I'm just just bounced off me. It would just seems like all shred all day and it didn't have that big chunk and melody to it. So I was a little trepidacious going into again. What the hell is this album called? Damn them, yes, and them, Damn Damn Num, damn them names. See, yeah, I wasn't sure what to expect going into this album. Where are you coming at it from? So I've I've listened to a couple of their records, the two most recent ones prior to this, and I've always thought of them as a band that I should like but weirdly don't. Okay, they seem to tour with bands that I really like and they're often mentioned alongside bands that I really like, and there genre is one that usually I gravitate towards, but there's just something about it that has never quite worked for me. Because we saw them live together, you know, when they play the rivers of now obscure and who else played that night? I'm forgetting the headliners. It wouldn't have been an obscure, they're not obscure them, one that would beyond beyond creation. Yeah, and they believe uscaris perhaps, yes, yes, yeah, but we saw them and I was sort of disappointed. And but I remember you being really, really hyped on them live I was like maybe they're actually good. Okay, yeah, I read jump the shock with the with the wit league. All right, so that's where we're...

...coming at this album, this new I'm just going to get my broad thoughts out of the way because, as I said, I forgot to revisit this and sort of don't have a D thing. I have to feel bad. My thoughts are any broad as well? Oh, okay, well, broadly, I think this album's great. I think this is a huge return to form. I love that they've done everything I've wanted. They have stripped back the text stuff. This is the most melodic elega on album that like, yes, if form shift is the groovy one, and then the last ones to take you one the problem. This is the melodic album, but it's also it's very proggy. I think there's a huge rivers of Nile influence on this, but I think it really works. I don't know if they've quite found as good as sweet spot as they did on something like elements of the infinite. That's the one where form shift is still my favorite bit. Elements of the infinets where I think they've had the balance like just right here. I think this maybe leans a little bit to proggy, a little bit too melodic in parts, but I am way into this direction and I think what I do get time to actually go back and invest more into this, I'm going to like it even more. Got This like the day before it came out and I was going to write it up as my top pick for our released a run up, and I listen to it like three times in a row because I just kept going nice way again. So it was what but then I forgot it. I thought it was coming out next month. I have that. So yeah, broadly I'm hoped on this, but I don't have anything else to say other that I did this well. Yeah, like I said that their past releases of sort of struggled to break through what I would call the fine barrier. They do it here. I really like it. It's melodic without being cheesy and they've got good riffs. It's consistent from front to back, good mix of clean and harsh vocals. I think a legion is finally clicking for me right. Yeah, I'd be interested to hear what you were you think of their earliest stuff. I don't know if form shift would be as up here early as it is mine. But Yeah, I think elephant elephants, elephants of the infinite. Yeah, so broadly we like damn them, but we we dozen to damn them, listen to damn them. I would say it's damn them good. Moving on, working through the DAMNOM Finn Barrier. All right. Do we want to do roller to Massy next? All right, Yep, we're myth becomes mystery by roller to Massy. And yes, this is been a huge month for releases and I think these last three or could have been like headline as these are. He's a big releases. Roller to messy Dar are a band that I don't really have a history with. Their sort of here as a band that I feel like I should listen to rather than a release. I'm excited for the like I'd seen their name or round and like sort of you where they were. But their previous album, time will die and love will bury it from two thousand and eighteen was just universally acclaimed, I think, both within heavy log of without the showing them that's people's albums of the year, was everywhere. So that's sort of when I went, okay, I will listen to this band and thought it was very good and think it is better every time I go back to it. But sort of it's not really my thing that that's where I was going into. Women becomes memory, where I'm sort of I put this here to check out, as this is an now my feel like a lot of people are going to be talking about, so I should know what it's about. Do you have any prior history with Rollo to Massi pretty similar. My first experience with them was time will die and love will bury it from two thousand and eighteen and despite all the hype that it got, it didn't do a huge amount for me and I struggled to get behind it and in particular, their style of harsh vocals didn't didn't work for me and detracted from the records. Yeah, I think this is in general, Roller Tomasiam more in my wheelhouse than yours, I would say, with the would be hardcore influence, I guess, although they are sort of early Nintendo core origins or whatever you want to talk about it. I got no interest in that, but they've definitely got that more yeah, harsh, a hardcore influence. All Right, so we're myth becomes memory. I think this is a very different sounding record. True, time will die. Love will bury it. Would you agree? I like this one a lot more, so that must be a yes. Right. Well, this the Venom prison effect. All right, well, you take it away that. So here the there's nothing about the vocals that doesn't work for me. I enjoy it. I feel like this is essentially a post rock album with ultimetal thrown in there, and I know that they're nominally meant to be like a post hardcore band. I don't personally feel a huge amount of hardcore here and maybe that's why it works for me more o Then't know. But the the combination is good. The ethereal parts with the cleaner vocals, I think a really nicely executed and contrast really well with the more energetic sections. And I think both of those, those two sides to their coin, working strongly and nice and well with one another. Yeah, I don't hear a lot of hardcore on this album at all. I think. Yeah, blood of Post Rock. I don't know about Ault rock so much. I definitely hear like it in the tones, but as far as like the same structures and things like, this isn't breaking Benjamin, if you get that impression. But I don't think that's what you were saying. There's a way that sort of bouncy tone, like, yeah, I first listen to it I was like, Oh, I'm a sugar there's like that, not like that intensity, but that like yeah, that bounce, that jerk to it. I'm actually the main band that this reminds me of a lot, who I guess are a hardcore bands. Are...

I'm sort of contradicting myself. There's a lot of moments on this album the remind me of employed to serve. Yeah, and not so much the you, I don't think overall this album. But there are bits, and it's the heavy parts where I'm like, oh, that's that's the like the that bounce, that Ault rock influence bounce, which turns out is it just Chrobar riffoffs? But I'm cool with it that. Yeah, I guess so, kind of that sludgy riffing. I think they've been paying attention to employed to serve because I think they're both British fans who, yeah, probably they. I am circles, sir. I think that's there in the heavy parts and I really like that last and point to serve album. So the bits on this that sound like. That's great. into the softer ambience stuff works less well for me on the Zelm. Less compared to what? Less compared to the heavier parts, or less compared to what they've done before. Let's compared to I guess how you're responding to it. is where I was going with that. Is it even spence is the lead vocals? Clearly she's very good at it. If that's her doing that the cleans as well, like that's she has the quality of her voice and the versatility is impressive. I do find, though, that it's the heavy parts that really grab me about this and I find the softest stuff kind of me and is especially the opening track like this kind of has the the wilder run effect of I'm like okay, like when are we kicking in? I think by comparison, like I've gone back. I spent a day like the other week being like all right, I'm gonna listen to all roller to Massi and see what I'm about. When this first came out, I pitched the in the heavy blog channel thing where I was like this is really different for them right, and people say no it. It's sort of similar to their last two. I don't think it's that similar to time will die in love will bear it, but I definitely see the lineage to their previous album, two grievances coming going back and listen to that. It's a bit more of an aggressive, Bouncy, a hardcore record. It's more similar to hardcore. But this one doesn't sound like hardcore. It doesn't bar. It's weird. I guess that the aggressive sections do. There's just more of that clean and and all right. This brings me to my overall point about this. I think Tim will die, love will bears is a better album than this. I think this one's a more accessible album by it. Much like with Venom prison, time will din levell buried is the second half of the Venom Prison Elm when this is the first half of the Venom prison. I find this really varied, but it's very mortal. It's like we're doing the clean part, now we're doing the heavy part, and then when the clean part comes in, it's not really melded into the song so much as just all we're going to hang out and do the clean thing for a while. And I find a lot of the cleaner, soft sections on this album. I'm very same me. There's not. I find the heavy parts really varied. When they come in, you getting something different when we go to the clean part of my all right, we're back to the clean thing. Whereas on time will die in love, will bury it. I think not only is a more consistently incorporated, but it's sort of doing different things. But I don't think any of it's bad. It just feels a little bit disjointed to me right the I don't know it, by being more separated. I also do think, yeah, this is way more accessible and I totally get why. Yeah, you would be viving with it more. I mean, I'm not a Rollo to Massy Fan and apparently I say vibing, but that's like the tip time I've caught myself saying that. Sure, whatever. Yeah, the first time I listened to this I thought, wow, this is this is wicked, but it hasn't really stood up to sort of closer inspection. Okay, it's got gone from vibing, so Wi could now. Yeah, well, I've always said wicked. I'll Lord wicked. Apparently it's quite the saying. And whatever part of the US it's got is from. Anyway, carry on. If this album was really good. I'd say it was sick that last employed to serve. I was sick, but maybe I'm sure my ass here, because the best song of this album hands down is lever and thing right, I'm terrible with track names. I Apologize. They to that. That is the big hea you want, right. So the one that sounds like I could literally be a track on the last employed to save album. So this is me gone. Yeah, come on, get back to the hardcore parts, when I do think what they're doing on this album was way more interesting than, if not employed to serve, a lot of the other bands. Yeah, that same, cool. That's really it's me say. I'm glad you like that one, because I was a little bit worried between this and fed in prison and Zelinada and called of where this was just going to be a big stack of stuff that color was not interested and you've seen. Yeah, overwhelmingly positive about all them, which is very cool. I'll let you pick where we go next then. Well, speaking of unbridled positivity, of then let's segue through to author and punishes. All right, I got to wait to talk about gerish. Yeah, so Jimmy reviewed this one and he said Kraula is yet another monumental step in refining the songwriting and broadening the possibilities of author and punisher. It's the most listening will project that's far, but no less about God or confident in its position resting along the cutting edge of contemporary industrial music. Do you do you have a history with all from front of Shaw? So there was quite a bit of buzz with their last record. I check that out, I didn't like it and you you told me, hey, check out this one, this one's good, and I still don't like it. Josh, I feel betrayed. Now. Hang on a second. Is that what I said, or did I say I think it would be interesting to listen to? I'm I'm I'm taking it as that was good. Listen to it, Carlo, and I like the idea of this project. I like the The let's can you instrument deal and I can see why people get behind it.

But going back to Tony in, this is just straight up boring metal. The pace is too slow for me and I struggle to even get through it in full. I yeah, so this is here because you know it's one of the bigger releases that it was reviewed on the blog, so I checked it out and I think when I made your recommendation, the recommendation to you, or said Hey, we should check this out, I hadn't sat with it for too long. I think that was based on I checked out. It might have even been before I listened to the whole thing. I think I may have listened to like the singles and like a bit of the album and gone our okay, this is what this sounds like. I did think this would be something you would like, for two reasons. Why? It's sort of got that Alt rock too Ley vibe to it. I mean Justin Chancellor and Danny carry are on this album and I know, like Yourant, I don't think this sounds like carnival or anything that. That that tool teens, that Alt rock tinge that I associate with things you like. Yep, was there. And also the single is a Lincoln Park Song. Am I wrong? This was your mission for the week. He's tell me what Lincoln Park Song? It's the second track, which I think I may have the answer, but the chorus to it's incinerator. Now I have to really listen to it. Hang on, because this is this is big, scary industrial author and Punisher Halfman, half machine. This is a Lincoln Park Song. Like this could be a youtube clip of Lincoln Park slowed down to fifty bpm or something. The intro Stampoole, I guess, is definitely bringing to mind something of the first two Lincoln Park records. It's the the chorus part, but like the straight and clean vocals are very early chest off. That's the bit. But like, I think there's the phrasing. The lyrics are hitting a bit in my brain and that's going. That's like a part. I yeah, yeah, I get you. It's where was it? Like we were up, we fall down, whatever that part is. Yeah, yeah, is that Lincoln Park Lyrics? I mean it might as well be. Let see if there's a link a park song. It's the vibe fall down in currently, if you if you Google Lincoln Park Fall Down Lyrics, to say put the song, that comes up as sharp edges, which I don't know what that is. So it's not that. I did do a quick like go through hybrid theory and Medeor. Are Looking for what it was and I think maybe I'm thinking of with you. That's where he has that that strained vocal Terne. So maybe that's what it's hitting, but either way there's not what I was expecting from all from Kanisha, a band that I had not checked out their previous album. I had just sort of seen, you know, the big machine and knew roughly what they were, but so I was very surprised when we came to this. This is essentially like a chill out rock record. This sort of reminds me of like rocky Aktaturnia, even like not as melodic and soft as that, but has that sort of dark, Ye, that dark melodic vibe to it. But you're right, this is not nearly dynamic enough. This goes nowhere. I enjoyed this album for the first like three songs and then it's Ye, all, we're doing this, we and I. This isn't nearly as extreme as what I want from this crazy industrial band called yeah, author and Punisha. And I get that this is a more melodic or more accessible sort of album for him, because I did check out the previous I which, I think, what's it called? Beast something, beast land, and that is wild and crazy stuff. But I guess that's more what I expected and though I probably like I would listen to Basse land whereas this, I do enjoy the air gall idea of it. I saw it, I sat a more interested in baseline. I don't know. I also has he invented a new instrument or is he put some like wise on a synthesizer? I haven't done nothing, I have. I haven't audited his instrument creation process. Who Know about industrial stuff? You know, I'm sure I'm being ignorant here, but like watching a few of the videos and stuff, it doesn't seem like he's doing a whole lot like you see the pictures of it. Like I was expecting like this rack that he gets in where like he is the machine and he's moving and it just sort of seems like he has a synthesizer and then he has a like a drum that's on a lever. I don't know. So maybe it comes through on the other records. Like clearly, having listened to a bit of beast land, he's he knows he shit and he knows what he's doing. I just yeah, I was expecting more from this. HMM. So, yeah, I do think this is a more accessible album, but I don't think it's particularly yeah, sure, so interesting. All right, let's shift ourrens. Can We? Can we talk about Garishon across? Yeah, okay, let's let's indulge you, Josh. So I'll kick us off because I don't have a huge amount to stay here. So garishen the chronicles released. Hail to the heroes. And this is ham metal. Yes, it's is, it's fun and it's very much Josh's kind of thing and it's really not my kind of thing. But if you like fun, upbeat, Guitar Centric, clean vocals centric hair metal, then look no further. I'M gonna give us a bit of background on this because, yes, this is here metal. I like hair metal. I don't think anyone else on the blog, and especially not color, likes hair metal. Sorry, was not expecting you to like this. And again, like Venom prison, if it had just been another Sam sor I would have bothered talking about it, or I probably would have been you know, we just do it quickly. If this had just been just another hair metal album, like, I wouldn't make you listen...

...to it right like there was a crazy looks album that came out last year that I thought was really good, but if that had come out I would have put it in the supports and I would have said, Oh yeah, by the way, there's a new crazy looks album out. It's probably their best. It's the second one and and if you like that sort of thing, check it out. I like a bit. I'm not going to make you listen to it, unfortunately for you. The first hair metal that's come out while we're doing this, I think is one of the best hair meut of as I've heard in ages. This is this is Gurish in the chronicles there in Indian. Yeah, hair metal band. I think this is their second or third album this. Yeah, as I said, this is not a good ham out of this is one of the best, if not ever. Like this is one of the best modern hair metal albums. You know, I don't think it's gone quite toarted over the s classics, but in terms of yet modern stuff, this is up there with the best stuff crazy legs and Crashedet I've ever done. I think this is wicked. You didn't get anything from this, like I mean one of my men to get other than I yes, this is fine, this is this is advised dollar, this is be this is good shit. This is the sort of that cult of Luna album is a rocks and it makes me want to rock, and yet you still called it wicked and not sick. Now this is. This is wicked, this is this is not sick. This kids with emphasis. Yeah, this rules and hail to the hero. As a file track, which I think is one of one of the best songs in the album, is just a complete rip off from reworking of Dockins dream war is and I'm so here for it. It's so yours the chronicles. Yeah, I got a bit of Buzz on the last time rock the high which I think I gave one of the songs from that to John in a playlist swap and who he is. He's much like you. was like. I guess that home had like a couple of highlights but on the whole was like not the finished product. I think this is wall to Wall Bang. It's there is like every track on this is a classic. I was looking at it. Every tracker classic. I think one is open is a huge while song on the album. If I if I was making a best of Garish in the chronicles playlist, which keep them on that I have like two or three alms. But like, I think, yeah, maybe only rock and Roll Jack wouldn't make the cut. Heavens crying is so Shaman's of time. Come on, color, nothing, nothing, nothing stuck with you from this. Did you raise your fist to the heavens once? I raised my fist that you perhaps, because this goes out of my arm sho straight up, but it doesn't come yea. It's like yeah, if, yeah. Anyone who has any interest in this kind of music, this leans on the heavy er end of the hey metal spectrum, so things like skid rower, white snake, stuff like that, and I do actually hear a lot of the more modern bands like crash diet and stuff coming through in this. Sorry, anyone has a vague interest in classic rock and like that sort of thing, I recommend this album wholeheartedly. All right, now I'll final. This is our final special guests. Hmmm, we're staying in India. Got Indian Double Bill. We're going over. This is a band you brought in. This is bloody wood. Do you want to tell us about bloody wood color? So bloody woods have recently released rack shack and this is a band that started off making Lincoln Park covers. Is that explains a lot. Color, and then they took some sort of I think they made a covers album where they took pop songs and made metal versions of them, and as far as I'm aware, this is their debut original of original songs. I did not know about that. I just knew this was their debut. I didn't know they had this history. I'm mentro that pop thing, but I think you're burying the lead hit color. This is Bollywood metal. This is Bollywood influence new metal. I mean, is it? Yeah, it's called bloody wood. I mean, I think they're just like this is meant to be the antithesis of Bollywood. Yeah, that's what bloody would did. Anything you are opposing, you are influenced by by default. Yeah, I'll go call it this end in that way. If you shake you, thissted me for F Garish in the chronicles. I'm not saying this sounds bad, but like you've got, you don't have a leg to stand on asking me to check this out. This is nuts. Yeah, but it's amazing. I mean it's got Chunky, bouncy new metal riffs, a ton of Indian sort of folk style percussion and wind instruments. We've got a rapper, we've got harsh and this litter clean vocal and what's not to love? Josh what? I have a very distinct answer for that, but I will, I will get there. It's this sounds very good. This is a very good, very addictive album. It's so fun you just want to listen to it again. This album sounds exactly like what a band called bloody would I expected them to sound like. But is way better than an album by a band called bloody would I sweat can sound like. It's way heavier. I think that's really what I that's the part. I was not expecting. The sounds like, was it? This sounds like a cross between cross faith and soul fly with, yes, Indian folk music mixed in, which I don't pay attention to Indian folk metal. So the fact that this is getting attention doesn't mean it's necessarily original. But this...

...is this is a lot to take in. Yeah, I agree. The Cross faith influence is definitely strong. The Lincoln Park influence is huge all the way through and and it's like there's definitely some diet slip nut vibes, like it's you can tell they listen to and like slip up, but they never go that heavy and but that, yeah, Slip Mark Lincoln Park? Sure, but I think where is it? You listen to nemesis on the Venom prison. I'm going to go all that is this slim they. I don't get that so much with this yes soulfly who I mentioned at the Big One. This sounds like early soulfly, obviously with the like folk elements, but just the riffing and the heaviness like you're saying that I don't know as heavy is. Maybe you know Iowa level Slipknot, but and it's not as dark as that, but it's as yeah, that's right. It's not the it's not. Yeah, they've got the crunch in the Groove, just not the aggression and the the darkness. So yeah, musically I think this has way more in common with yes sever tour soulfly stuff than in the park where the Lincoln parkingforence comes through. It comes through very clearly. Is there a two vocalist in this band? There is a harsh volcalists who sings in the Indian language and he's really good. He is, yeah, full, especially watch their videos. He is full of charisma, he is very gripping, he's awesome. Yep. And then there is an English rapper. He's not English, but he wraps in English. Yeah, and color. He has got to go. He's pretty, he's pretty, cringe he is. Yeah, well, can I I caught. I pulled the the opening verse of the First Song on this album and other because there's an Indian verse. But then what's it called? And I will full warn everyone by saying this is going to sound much worse out of context. But all, I don't know if it is proceed Jos is goodar. This is that they ruined the ruined, ruin the record. For our Paul listeners, slow clap the crap they call in governance more than a wrap man, where forming government's full blown attack man. Get with the plan. We're here to pull apart the politicians and the God clan. Yeah, yeah, we're slaying, but we're saying nothing new. We're just saying you better do the Shit you say you're going to do. None of that fake shit. WWe because you know, we keep it real, like the UFCRE color. Yeah, as our podcast resident Lincoln Park Fan, maybe you have a higher tolerance for appalling wrap, but this is bad. I will not suffer any lection at a blasphemy on this pod Joshua. No, don't you try a fourthing today. Yes, yes, I am telling you, that was the game. Look, I can't defend the raft vocals. It and that, and occasionally I think the mix gets a little busy at times on this album, but other than that, putting that to one side, the rest is great and the rest is good enough that you can put up with the the reft vocals. Yeah, if it wasn't in English, I don't know, I'd the other. The problem also just that the English rapper is bad. The other guy is so good. Yeah, he was spitting these in his gruff voice. Yes, sins thing. Is it better because it's current as are so deep? I don't know correct and there's parts where he is spitting really like that and he's got great flow and he's his distorted, sort of harsher vocals are great, but his clean vocals are also great. Like the main vocalist is really, really strong. Yeah, he's something. Yeah. So, yeah, I think there would be a lot of people who saw this name and dismissed it, like I did before. You were like hey, like check this out, and I'm very glad I did. It's it's something. Yeah, and and it's not one note either, like there's I think the main takeaway is fun and a blast of energy, and that's what you'll get with tracks like Gada, the opener, Dada Dan as well. But then there are also some really emotional, big hooks, like in G V day, which is probably one of my favorite tracks on the record. And so yeah, you should check it out. Good Shit. Yeah, it's cool, but also very uncool. Okay, so bad and like sort of in a bit of a side note. So the band only has three guys. Okay, so it's the the vocalist we like, and the guitarist does all of the music himself, including the drumming, I believe. So I'm not a hundred percent sure, but definitely the non drumming. And the rapper is the most recent addition. So initially it was just the other two guys and then all the rap the rapper started off as a guest on a song and then they've pulled him into the fold. Well, okay, so I didn't want to ruin this guy and say he's been in this band the whole time and he should be there kick him out, but if you'll tell me he's a new addition no, he he needs to go. I mean if they had someone like the guy from cross faith, a hack of this right, like someone like the new guy from hack to this, which it just has that menace to him. He's so good. So this. Yeah, this guy is not fit at all. Yeah, on album. That is the last of our special guest for...

...the week. Do we want to smash through some supports, because there's been other albums release this month? There have, so why then, you kick us off with one that I'm bet you really like, emilation. I do like the relation of yeah, I mean this by all means should be in the headliners. This is a big release in our circles in death metal. It's a really good album, but it's down here on the sports because I don't have much to say about it other than emulation of fucking great this is another fucking great immolation album, but everyone else has said that already. I don't really have anything to add. Having said that, I do think this is a rather different immolation album. It's much more blackened. It has a bit of a dissonant ulcerate influence to it. Their last few albums have sort of been in the same vein where it's just we're doing the emulation thing and it's great, but it's the thing we do. This is a different tone for them, which is cool, and I think the drumming on this album is fucking incredible. But yeah, everyone else has said this. I don't have anything new to say. I like emilation. I liked a new emilation album color. Do you like Emilation? Do you like the new relation album? I haven't listened to much emolation in the past and maybe just the last couple. This one I thought was pretty good. I think there's the riff work is really strong. There's some menace to it. That's some real heft to the riffs as well, and I agree there's some black and touches there which I really liked, but overall, probably a little too straightforward for my for my taste. Not Not to say that it's a bad thing. That's what they're going for. I did feel the songs tended to bleed in to one another towards the end. It just started to feel a bit Samey, but maybe I just haven't listened to it enough times. No, I agree. I think it sits in that atmosphere for but individually the songs are great and if you like. If you like that style of death metal, you're going to like this album. It's as simple as that. Yeah, it Simon Think wrote this up in the editors picks and said nobody that has heard an emilation record before is going to be shocked by what acts of God brings to their discography. But it's another solid edition from some of the straightest shoots the death metal has cultivated to date, and he says it is highly recommended to fans and new bees alike for big evil moments, crunching guitar riffs and some sounds that would truly make you wonder why nobody has piled for their style yet, which is a good point. More people should be ripping off emilation. See, I do think this is would be a good jumping off point, though I take a little bit of issue of the description of Emilation of straight shooters, because my favorite emulation, I think it's their third album. Failure is for God's yeah, they're third from one thousand nine hundred and nineinet is fucking weird, right, I haven't heard that. Yeah, it's goal gutsie without being like that real mushy sound. It's like right, the real yeah, it's cool. It doesn't sound like any other definite alm I've ever heard. But yeah, emilation are going to emulate a band that are definitely varied, our morphous, who I think had one of the most varied discographies in history music. I wrote up an eight track for them a while ago which, looking back on, I did sort of stick to the classics more than maybe I should have. I yeah, John wrote this one up for the editors picks, saying that it was catchy and accessible, rooting an energy, a typical confidence that is vibrant and direct, is anything found in the band's extensive discography. I am a fairly large Amorphous Fan, depending on which our which are, because they have very distinct areas. To you. Are you into a morphous at all? Color? I've only listened to their previous record, so that was my intro, I know, or if I recall, I think you quite like that one. I think it's one of their better, more recent ones. Right, right, so to bring us, I guess. Do you want to give your thoughts on on this one? And Yeah, then have a huge amount to say. I feel pretty similarly to how I did to the last one, and that it's like, it's fine it's pleasant while I'm listening to it, but it doesn't leave me wanting more or really desperate to come back and revisit it like they do the the touch of prog melodic melodic metal thing reasonably. Well. Yeah, I I did like the last album, but it didn't it didn't stick with me and I didn't go back to him, and that's sort of the problem I have with with modern amorphous. And having discovered that this album is actually the third in a trilogy of the last three album sort of clears up a lot of that for me, because they are sort of right, say me MMM, whereas yeah, before that, I think they really keep the same sound for two albums in a row and then now it seems like they've sort of settled into a groove. The the one before this trilogy circle from two thousand and thirteen, which is where they did go a bit more like Groovy, are less proggy. That was a groovy, are melodic album, but I think that one's really great. And the one for me is their fourth album, chew an hour, which is an album much like failures for gods that sounds like no other album I have ever heard. This sounds like wild honey era, Tiama, playing you two error, Joshua tree, right like they're opening song of that the way it opens with some like where the streets have no name, style delay. That album is incredible and I love it, but they never made no album like it and no one else has ever made no like it. It's this really singular album, whereas like yeah, with their mode and stuff, I feel like they found that the trademark and Moll for sound and they've sort of stuck with it and this is this is more of that. I've talked a lot here, but I was just going to give this album a one sentence review, which is say these songs are two damn...

...well. Yep, I agreed. Yeah, they me end or a lot this. This is obviously an amazing instrumental feat, but it really doesn't keep my attention at all. Yeah, these last few records have been very highly acclaimed as far as I'm aware. It's just they sort of meander for me. Sorry, I'm sort of agreed, losing my passion for am office, but still very impressed by what they doing. The other big release of the month was a new corn out color. Do you care about a new corn album? No, no, it's what's down here, and there are supports, isn't it? Have you ever cared about a new corn album? I don't know if you like corn, yes and no. Like I do like corn, but I've I mean if they had stopped making music twenty years ago, would I be worse off? Probably not. But in saying but, I think the album's they have been really sing the last few years have been pretty good and and I tend to think that of this one as well. Like it's not. It's not going to convert you to corn if you didn't like them before, but I don't think they're finding it in either. I think they're making solid music time after time. That seems to have been the big response to this album. People saying that's just another corn album, but that's what counder corner doing the corn thing and they're doing the corn thing well. That's every review of this outum I've read or heard. I think this sounds like they're really phoning it in really yeah, there is nothing remarkable about this album to me at all. And the first couple songs ago it sounds like corn and then I'm like, okay, this seems to me like such a dropoff from like good corn, like, yeah, compared to untouchables or something. I don't think it's even comes close. A lot of people were big on the their last album and nothing, which is now my literally forgot existed until they announced this one. So I don't know, I have weird corn opinions, I think. So you on the other side. is their best album sir, I'm an idiot, but like what you were saying where they could have broken up twenty years ago and that were thing. I don't think they need to have broken up. But yeah, people seem to have accepted the corner of this band that just put out an album and they go on the tour and the this work hoorse band. I think corn would be way cooler if they were an event band. You know, other bands are there of the era, like like Ramstein and tool, just go away for a while and then when they come back it's like, Oh shit, what are these albums going to sound like if corn fucked off and then came back? Because over the last four or five corn albums, I think there's only probably one good album's worth of material. HMM, like, I don't see the point of releasing this. None of these songs are going to stay in there sets beyond this tool. So yeah, it depends what you're what you're what you're aiming for is you as a band, right. I mean they're putting stuff out consistently to get to to a consistently. I'm not going to big rudge them that, but they I take your point is I'm looking back sure their arms now it's like every all of all the albums, I'd say, up to maybe the paradigm shift. It's like there's a different idea with every album. They're trying something and then and now feels like for these last ones it's like, okay, we just do corn now, and it's very exciting to me. Yeah, I don't know. I was pretty nonplust about this album. But yes, that brings us back to our question. I don't really need a new corn album in two thousand and twenty two. So yeah, like I would agree that the the originality has died away, but I don't think the quality of what they're doing is necessarily dropped. It's just become less interesting because it's more of the same. That's fair. I also think this is probably the worst coin out. Oh now it's probably better than corn three and maybe gone through. But yeah, I'm not, not very impressed. But it's a support so let's move on to our final O. Yes, there wasn't that. There were other big voices this month. There was a mafarm death EP, but it turns out just a munch be sides from the last album. So I don't care. I did listen to what it was there remarkable. Wait, is the other one we've got listed here that we want to have a quick chat about? But you familiar in this band? Nope, that's time. I listen to them. All right, same'sis. This is a guy used to be in cynic, is now an exist. I did write down his name, that guy and Ames formal, yes, cynic and defeated sanity and is yes, and exist with guitarist Charlie Aaron, who also plays weight leave in wort. This up for one of our columns and said there's something so effortily complex on this release that goes way beyond just weird time signatures and your odd jet influence. Sing apatient. which ever note the album strikes, it does so with a confidence and great skill, creating one of the more satisfying release has so far and I think the sentiment has been largely echoed among heavy blog circles. I've seen quite a big response to this. Is it an album? It's yeah, it's fifteen minutes, but yes, seven songs, that they're long. Yeah. So this, this strucks me a something that would be up here Ali color. It should be. Yeah, but it doesn't break through the fine barrier for me. So I think the instrumentation is fine, it's decent. There are some cool riffs and there are some really interesting passages or the sort of the melodic phrasing they use at times is quite different. The loan present supreme stands out as one of the one track where that really shines. But apart from a few moments here and there, I do feel like it's quite say me. And the NASALLY vocals don't really do it for me either. So I think if you, if you do like this album, or if you think you should like this album, go listen to a Pale December, who released death panacea, which is a better version of this. It's more concise, more engaging, and check it out. I know this one all. Apparently I...

...did earlier cooked on, probably because you posted it somewhere and I was like, well, listen to that. I think, yeah, I think I clicked on this because of the cover. That's from this year. Is it all right? I'll go back to that. That looks interesting. Yeah, you've just utimilated again. I have pretty much the identical reaction to this. I was sort of expecting more, really, and I don't think I've given it the time it needs, like I've sort of put this yeah, like to agree. Listens, but it hasn't grabbed me and I was struck by how Sam it feels like maybe, if you're engaged and paying attention, that there's or to get there. Yeah, this, being the guy from exist makes way more sense, because I was when I was listening, I'm like the sounds like that band that had that album that sounded like floating problem, but it was. Yeah, it's those same guys. Yeah, not grabbing me, but I know a lot of people are hyped on this, so if you've disagreed with us so far, check this one out. All right, that that is all the support. So that's all the others we both listen to. I did want to give a quick support shout out to two albums. The first is schizophrenia. Their debut album, recollections of the insane, is our a threshmal band from Belgium. They called schizophrenia or they sound like Sepatura early slay out, that that death thrash, those thing. I think this album's really good. I was really hyped on their voices EP from two thousand and twenty and this is their debut album and I think they've delivered. I was going to say this is something that. Yeah, I'm like Garish in the chronicles, where I'm like God, you need to listen to this. If you like fresh mental check this out. If you don't, you don't. There's not really much to discuss here. So that's why I didn't make you listen to it. But also, having said that, the other this sounds the most like is the lasting Elysis wake one. So if you doug that, this is worth checking out. That has a bit more of that or death Medel influence. And the other O I wanted to shout out was now I'm called active will, by a band called a crazier. This is a Kr a SIA from Hungary. Yeah, this is just when I was putting together the released around up stuff, I noticed the checked out the single for this. Something about it grab me and I sort of put it on note to check out whenever release. I went back to it and yeah, this is much like a early elegay on. This is. This is so just like made for me almost. This is crunchy fee thrashy mellow death with big, Chunky like the thing that sets this a path from like any other melow death, thrashy dad is just these big, next snapping on earth style grooves that they just throw in. They're just like now we're doing the on earth thing. Yeah, this is really cool. So if you, like me, like the sound of that, check this out, because there are small band from hungry that. I don't think anyone's talking about this, but it's pretty cool. Oh, I did want to say, have you checked out this, a theorious album? I saw this just before when I was going through a pulling review quotes. This album at looks familiar. I've heard people talk about it. I have listened to it and it is in my fine category. It did sound like archbierbut find so. Yes, I mean it's kind of that's kind of the indictment, isn't it? Have you listened to this? I don't think so. Let me check. I have give you do that a lot. All right, cool people time, cool people time, cool people time. So, yes, obviously we're looking off the heavy blog podcast being here, but our version of cool people time, if you did bother to listen to the last episode, is this is a segment where we listen to an album that's too cool for us. The people call the US, are are talking about and we give our unqualified opinions on so this week we are talking about the moving cantation to cool for us. Yes, well, I mean by all rights this should have been a headline. This is maybe the biggest metal release of the month, the biggest release by a metal band of the month, perhaps. Well, there we go. But yes, is here. If this was a straight ahead death MELM, I would have been in the badline us. It's in the cool people calm because this is the saying you grandpappy's death metal. This is I don't know what this is. Blood in CAn'tation. You A fan and not really? No, no, I me me that, which is weird, because this is one of those ones where I feel like I should like bloody can'tation. I know right, everything blood and Cantatian do is stuff I like. Everyone I like whose opinion I respect says bloody incantation of the best thing since death metal, slice bread. HMM. People were big on their last album and I just thought it was a big like sort of waffle sound like the jam, rather than an album. There were parts of it that we're really cool, but there were only parts. So Anyway, somehow they've become the break out band and I don't know why that's. That's another thing where it is a bit of that why you? But they are talking about them and and mainstream publications are talking about them and they talked about them on their last record, but they extra talking about them on this record because this is this is an ambient album. Time Way of zero is the name. Yeah, so this has been reviewed everywhere and Philly acclaimed, from what I've read. Do you like ambient? Yeah, me either. Right, but okay, this wasn't going to why? It's too cool for us. Yeah, we were. We were going to do dary country, black country, old road, and they you know what we're saying. Yeah, we were going to do that one and I listened to one song of it was like, Nope, it sounded like what I thought and expand. Sounded like they're glad they don't. I have not listened to that would because it's bad. I thought their last one was bad too, or at least if it's not bad, it's not for me. So, but also that album hasn't been getting much of a response. This blooding cantation number was everywhere. People are being in it up. This is the next big death metal band. They've translated death by all that kind of color. They are having us on where.

This is a big load of bullshit. Yeah, I actually like this, okay, because I have feelings about this album. Of all of their records, this is the one I should like the least, and yet I seem to enjoy it the most of their catalog. Now this contradicts all of my tastes because it sounds pretty much exactly the same for fifty minutes or however long it is. Uh Huh, and that's Wain. I've mentioned boring metal many times already on this on this episode, but I find it kind of relaxing and I like having it on in the background whilst I do other things. So this is definitely headed for my study playlist. It's definitely not going to make my list, but I'm enjoying it more than I expected to. I mean that put it on the background and just chill out. It should make more sense to me. except I tried that. Having this on in the background, joky. It's say. I was like do something. It's just this hum meditative, Jush meditative. Remember that time what's his name was a Joaquin Phoenix and he did that movie where it was a documentary about his life and he went on all the talk shows and he was being all weird, but then it was like some kind of heart project where he was like playing a character and he was like Juping as a man. This is like that, but death metal. Yeah, they're like we've broken through, we're going to release the biggest pile of bullshit and people are going to eat it off. This is nothing, it's the same thing. And like I did. I literally couldn't believe. I've Gone Through Multiple Times I've been like have I just downloaded the same track? Like over in our they call and if I put it on and I skip through, I can hear it. This bit is different to that bit, is different to that bit, like there is something different that. But when I am listening to it. It sounds like the same like the same hum and the same like refrain over and over again and like, I guess that's cool because it's subtly changes without you noticing, except that I never noticed that it has changed. I think this is the biggest wank. I'm not saying it's not a Wank, like I fully agree that it is, but it's just one that I don't mind. Yeah, all right, well, maybe you're cool with me. I think that's what we wanted. One point for Carlo in the cool kid columns. I will see you have a go and next one. I'm not actually sure what we're going to do for the cool people section next time because, yeah, I don't know, I haven't seen anything, but we'll see what gets buzzed about. Why this bad? Good question, when I kind of enjoyed this. So I was like maybe I was wrong about their older stuff and I should give that another lesson. So maybe I'll report back next month. I have not been back for obvious reasons. All Right, I think that does it for this month. Thank you, Carlo. I think this has been a fun one. was there anything else you wanted to mention before we go? Girl, good by the looks of it, tentatively next month. I am not as big in terms of big releases, but I think big for US related releases that you want to say that because, yeah, we have new albums by half and I'm throwing North Lane in there, and now it comes out in April. We got the new Arbum by ghost that came out today and then, yeah, it's a whole bunch of stuff. Is Teamy, extinction, ETI. There's a vein now, which you can read my thoughts about on the website right now. Animals as leaders, cant about Crowbars, Saboton plus. See Our about midnight, dark, Funeral, archaic. So yes, those are the things we will be talking about next month. See, yeah, why.

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