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Episode · 4 months ago

22-3 It's Not Review, It's Me

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Headliners: Hath, Northlane
, Architects, Ghost. 

Special Guests: Izthmi, Arkaik, Humanitone, Origin of Escape, Extinction A.D., Kvaen. 

Supports: 
Vein, Animals as Leaders, Sabaton, Hammerfall, 
Crowbar, Abbath, Midnight, Placebo, Nightrage, The Korea, Last of Lucy, Hellbore.

Cool People: Messa. 

Hi, josh a color. How are you going? I'm good, I'm going. Volume has picked up since we were ritually started. It's gonna. It's got to match. It's got to match the outro. How many times I say, do you often say hi really loudly when people say goodbye to you? Now, just for you, okay, because you say goodbye really loudly, I say hello are yes, so I'm Josh. I talk really fast. He's color. He tooks a lot slower. And we are the hoarst of the heavy book is Heavy Review podcast indeed, which should actually be up on the site, as I was, hopefully by the time this one comes out. We are having crusted, yeah, distribution problems. For some reason the PODCAST is not showing up in searchers on any programs, even though it says it exists in all their databases and things. But if you get the RSS feed off the website dump that in your program it'll just be there forever and you can listen to it as it comes out. I have sent off support emails, so hopefully that works out. This is the march addition, coming out in April. Looking at the releases going in March, although we we have a April release this time, so got a bit more underground. We've been hitting a lot of the big bands on the first few episodes and I think we have a pretty yeah underground lighte up this week with our headline is half North Lane. That's the one that's coming out in April, because I was meant to come out yesterday on the first and you've told me it's been pushed back to the twenty or something something like that. Yeah, I think distribution issues. Yeah, getting the records and then our big names. We have architects with their live album and ghost. Then our special guests is themi. Is that how we're saying that? I say is me, but that's a real mouthful, isn't it? So not two different we're just hitting that thirt a bit harder or softer. Archaic Humanitarian Origin of Escape Extinction, a D and cavey and which I think I guess as how you say that as well. And then some quick chats about our supports, vain, Sabatan, animals, as lead, as help or the Korea last of Lucy Crowbar about midnight plus see very charlie xx and night rage. But yeah, and then our cool people time with Messrs album close as a close or close. Every time I read it an I always look closed, but could be run because the review pun for us this time. Look, I don't know how long that's going to last. I should just name him after the months, but I'm having fun with the puns at the moment and since I since I've been done, but I think this one's going to be called it's review, not me. So do we want to just get into it? Then? Let's that, then. So kick things off with half and all that was promised. Hats album, all that was promised. Yes, sir, there's been a bit of not not buzz, I guess buzz. I've seen this album around a lot of God, got sort of a big pushed a band that I am very big on. It was huge on their debut album of rotten room. What you did we decide that was two thousand and nineteen. Yep, because we premiered, I think, the first single off this album at the very start of the year and then they introd that in's like Oh, we posted like four different posts about their first album. We did like an anatomy of it. I guess list that was all me just being like guys I love you. Just give your stuff. Yeah, I really like that album as my elm of the year for that year. So this is maybe those top three for me as well. Yeah, so I think this is probably my most anticipated album of twenty two. Now my thoughts about this are already out there because I reviewed this for the blog and that's been up for a month now, which is to say I really like this album, that I don't think it lived up to my expectations, although I'm coming to groups with it. But yees. So I wrote that, while all that was promised doesn't quite live up to its predecessor, it's still one of the best death metal albums you'll hear. Oh yeah, there's a lot to unpack, but the words are more than worth it if you're willing to put in the effort, and the bad should be premended for carving out their own niche within the realms of aggressive death metal rather than leaning on the laurels off their four bears. So that's how I feel about I'm just getting that out of the way because that's been published for a month. So we'll throw over to you, Carlo. Well, I very similarly to you, it seems, so I love their previous one. Now, admittedly, it did take me quite a bit of time to get into it, okay, and probably the first ten times I was like, I feel like I should like this, but it's just not clicking for me, and then eventually it did and, like I said, it was in my my top three. So I feel here on all that was promised, hath a very much delivering more of the same. So if you liked what they did before, you're going to like this one. The same tones, the same ominous sort of menacing vibe, and it's really strong from front to back. I'm not sure that it does enough to beat their prior record, but it's it still sounds strongly on its own. Right. Yeah, sounds like we've come to the same conclusion, but I actually think I feel extremely differently about this album to you. Right. I think this is a very different album too of rotten ruin, which is what I'm kind of coming to grips with, because the thing with a rotten ruin is it sounded like our path, which is I don't know if I agree that that it was that opeth like. I think it was pretty Erpeth like. There was a there's one of the song starts with the riff from like the grand conjuration. I'll give you obviously airpeth influence, but either way the Airpath, the influence, I think, was a lot more pronounced this. Yeah, pronounced on the previous record. Here they've turned that...

...back a lot. There's not these sort of softer acoustic melodic passages that they went into a lot on the on the first album. This one sort of all brutality all the time. That there's bits here and there, but it doesn't sort of deviate as much. I don't think this is as dynamica record or if there are those things going on, they keep the like. There's blast beats the whole time rather than it's shifting gears, which is good because I think this is a more like something I wrote movie. This is a more half sounding album, like they've sound that there would sound, rather than being this are there and opath influence band or whatever. So I like that. But this album does sound a little bit say to me, whereas the first one had these really distinct pronounced moments that jumped out to me. Yeah, when you said it was the first one was a grower for you, like for me, I put on a rotten ruin and I was in stuff like this is my im with the love it, or is this one? I was like, okay, I don't know, and it's sort of like crept up on me. Obviously I have a lot of expectations, but like when they're the first single, what's the name of the single that they dropped off at the we premiered, because that song is amazing at to stop myself from saying incredible. Then because having him back to the podcast, apparently that's something I say. CANOSIS. That was the the single week premier and I believe that was the first song released from it, and I think that song is amazing. That's the one that's got the big clean vocal stuff at the end and I was like really pumped on that song and it's a bit of an outlier. I think that's easily the best song on the album and none of the other songs quite go that far or that are that good. Would you agree? Yeah, okay, it's definitely one of the stronger moments, for sure. Having said that, I keep listening to this and I go, oh, so it's a bit say me, none of the songs really stand out. But then when I listened to it closely and I did discover that this album really sounds a lot better through headphones than speakers. It tends to blend through speakers, I find I haven't listened to it through speakers. Yeah, I would recommend it. Was a big, big difference for me listening to it through headphones. But I go on. None of the songs really stand out. It's a bit from Monturne and but then when I was going through it, I listened to all of these albums yesterday while I was driving around, making like actual notes, and like every song I was like, Oh, this is great, this is great, this is great, this is great. So all the songs have these great moments. They're just not distinguishing themselves enough for me to really latch onto it. But I do think this will grow on me even more than it hasn't said I'm down. I still think this is really great. Like I wrote in a review, this is one of the best deaf mol albums of the art. Yeah, it'll definitely, it'll definitely land on my list somewhere. Like I said, the previous one I was a grower and I feel like this one probably will be as well for me. So it's a bit hard for me to place it just at this point in time, but it'll definitely be up there. Yeah, I think made time with this one, because something else I realized listening to it yesterday is, yeah, a rotten rules my own with the year. And then my number two, as we discussed last episode, was the cattle decapitation record, and a lot of this album sounds like those two albums mixed together. That's a lot of that last cattle decapitation amend as well. So I'm like, I'm a little bit frustrated with myself, like why don't I like this more, even though I really like it, because it does just seem like this is perfect. It's just not engaging me as much as the first one, although I think I may have unlocked the secret when I was listening to it last line. I think the last song should be the first song. In the first song should be the last song, and I think give another gage difference. Yeah, the last songs got a bit more of that pretty stuff. I think this takes a while to really like build up to what's going for. We've been very critical of this. Am I still think it's great. Yeah, absolutely see them getting a huge push. But yeah, if you want more in depth thoughts about that, you can go read my review. Yes, so that was my own with the if for two thousand and Nineteen Euro O. With the two thousand and nineteen was north lanes. Was At alien? Is that the name of the Olm? That's right. Yet I couldn't make a call between that and fit for an autopsy. The flip and flop which one was first and which one the second all the time. And here we are in April and my top three albums from two thousand and nineteen have all released new music in two thousand and twenty two. We are found of them before that. No, yeah, I didn't know was not. How do you listen to them where you're aware of yeah, right, yeah, listen to them. That come up a lot and I was just like yeah, it's another Gentye metalcore band, whatever. Yeah, that's a lot how I'd felt about them. I remember their debut album, discoveries from two thousand and eleven, getting like a lot of hype sort of in the hardcore circles. I was frequenting it at the time. People were telling me all this is the the new best band there the other they're an Australian band, so like I think they have. They've got a big profile all overseas, but there's probably more going on here. And I listened to it and I thought it was good, but I just I didn't understand the hype at all and I kind of grew to resent them for it. Like the hype for this band just did not match what they were putting out. I saw them live supporting someone and I hated it. I thought that are really bad and I stood at the back of the room in my venom long sleeve and cross my arms cross at the hip. Yeah, I think they were poses that it really in retrospect, it was I. I was the one posing. Really the thing that rubbed me the wrong way about them was their singer. I don't know his name, but they're old singer, their original singer. He just came out had a he had a like red hat on. I don't know why that. That pissed me off. I don't know it just see you, it's me. Yeah, I don't know. There was just a lot of posturing and I didn't feel like they'd earn't the high and I didn't think he was a very good vocalist. They had their second arm. Came out singularity. I check that out the time and I think that is a good album. I think maybe up until alien I would have said that's their best one, at least instrumentally, with a lot of interesting stuff there. But I still think people were giving it twice as much praise as it deserved. And my main problem with that was,...

...yeah, the singer again. I don't know why. I did not like that guy. Then he left the band. They got a new singer. So in comes marcus right. So you'd think this would fix my problems, and Marcus, I think, is a much more technically stronger vocus vocalist. He's also a very different vocalist coming from that sort of carnivalesque school of vocalists. And they at least node, which again got a lot of hype, and I thought nods sucked just because they'd lost work. As much as I didn't like the original vocalist, whatever edge and why? He sort of had this young, scrappy guy they just sat. Now you have a vocalist that sounds like every other progressive metal band in Australia. They just lost any sense of identity for that, for me. MESM came next. I think I was that like once. It was like whatever, sor, I don't like nor playing note hadn't done anything for me. And that brings us to alien, right exactly. I was an alien. I went this is actually it's pretty good, like you were saying about that, that Venom present thing last week, and I listen to what a few times. Obviously the thing with that album is they're bringing in the electronics, right, yeah, and the industrial tones and I guess it's Lincoln Park right there. Yeah, Massive Lincoln Park and that shamedly. Yeah, so I thought it was pretty good but, you know, still wasn't really for me. But then I saw you and some other polegate was zero of the year, some other people being it up and I've been back to it a few times. I think it's easily their best album, has their most like unique, distinguishing sounds. So going into a sidium this was the first time I was like, okay, I'm actually looking forward to hearing what this sounds like. That you're obviously more invested, because alien was your elm of the year. What are you making of the follow up? Color? I think they're continuing on from a similar trajectory and we're still getting those industrial vibes and tones. There's still a lot of electronics, there's still massive vocal hooks. I love it. I think it's a great album. I still have it below alien at the moment, but it's always going to be hard to match an album of the year contender. It'll definitely feature permanently on my list and one thing that I think said to the a bit apart is I feel like there is a there is much less emphasis here on riffs and in said, it's more about creating so the soundscapes and textures in the vibe and an atmosphere and rather than specific riffs that they're hitting you with. So bit of a different angle, but similar overall sort of feel to the previous record for me. So you're saying it's going to feature prominently in your list. We've said we're both big going a fit for an autopsy and we work the weather. Where is this sitting sort of at the moment? Probably a sandwiched in between them. Oh okay, so over we work the weather. Yea Wow, okay, what are you ask me how I feel about the album color. All right, Josh, hit me. I think this is a complete pile. I think this album fucking sucks. Why? It's okaying yourself. It's everything I didn't like about the previous nothing records. Like, yes, the sound, the ideas are the same, but I think the execution is suffering from all the problems that they seem like they solved on alien. Don't think the songs are any good. I don't think the riffs are any good. I think this album is weak. I think everything about this album it's just weak through. My first note is the breakdown at the end of clarity, the first song. I'm like, this breakdown is weak. It does not hit hard. It's like the one note. It's technical sounding without being technical. The tones off, it doesn't hit the production soft. I'm just like this is not doing any of the things that should be doing. And then I think the harsh vocals are weak. I think he's quite a good, clean singer, technically at least. The tone doesn't again, I think he's kind of derivative, but he's harsh vocals. They just they're not they don't have enough presence to them. I think, yeah, that this idea that they're they're technical, like they're a Genti tech metal band. They're sort of not. They have that tone and they go bomb and there's no real depth to any of the playing. I think it will try. Wouldn't label them as a technical band, but they're they're coming from that, that style right, that that Genti sort of thing, and the appeal of alien was they a channel that into more melodic, electronic, sort of catchy material, and I don't think the songwritings here. I don't think the hooks are here. Okay, for the first part, the clean hooks are good. I'm not going to say great, but their service all like pass but there are some yeah, none of the harsh stuff works for me and there are some really clunky lyrics there. It's the third song, Echo Chamber, with that. Have you tried turning it off? And it's all about, you know, get off social media sheep. All right, hate that song. All I pays zero attention to lyrics whenever I listen to music, so they're normally not something I placed too much emphasis on. Just they stand out here so much like this. The Song Scifa, which I think actually has like a pretty good heavy riff, is a good sort of trety electronic song, but the refrain from it and it's about the guy from the Matrix is turned me into a battery and it's it's just like you didn't want to really go back to the drawing board with that one. Like I am a table all over again. I think this albums also philly. Monitorne Aileen had a lot of dynamics to it. This I feel like it's the same song over and over and over and over again, especially at twelve tracks, like or thirteen tracks. Think maybe a nine or ten track album could have been I agree on that front. Yeah, and I do think it actually, I think the best material girls towards the end.

The last three or four songs, I think, are a lot stronger than the early stuff. But yeah, this is I think this is my least favorite album we have reviewed on the podcast so far. Shame. Look, that's only going to be true for a month, I think, but right now this is the pits. So yeah, but I'm glad to hear you like it. It's still in the thing. So maybe it's just not for me and alien something where I think they found the balance and then just turns out the sound isn't for me. Well, if you like Dailien, don't stress, don't let Josh's negativity bring you down. OBSIDIAN is good. Guys, relax. I definitely say check this out if you like Dailien, but yeah, not doing in anything for me. So it seems like Ailien is the exception rather than the rule. All right, those are our two sort of personal headliners for the month. And now we've got the big bands. Let us start with architects. This is their live version of for those who wish to exist from every road, with the symphony and things. Yet, and this is another album you were very big on yes color. Yeah, so I massive architects fan, particularly from the second half of their career, where they went where they went more melodic and when they released for those that wish to exist. I liked it, but I liked it a lot less than I'd like their previous three or four albums, and I felt like it was half of it was amazing, but the the softer half, just wasn't doing enough for me and there wasn't enough energy, there wasn't enough variety and it was struggling to to hold my attention, and so I ended up cutting maybe a third of the track list and relisten it and just listening to the edited down version and really getting into that now here with the orchestration at it in and it's the same orchestra that did bring me the horizons live at that, but at hall or now orchestra as well. Here that changes completely and now it becomes all killer. They filler for me, and there the heavy and energetic moments are just as good, if not better, and the quieter moments are vastly improved by having the brass and the strings there to compliment it and give it, give you something more to hang on to. Yeah, I think I felt very civilly. I thought you were bigger arm for those who were to exist, but now I'm remembering US talking about that. Yeah, it's sort of a half and half thing. The where is the highlights are good. Yeah, so I felt very similar about the album and and I actually reviewed it for the rest for heavy log which I was reading that and I would think that was a bit harsher on it than I meant to be, but I wrote ironically for its largely undeserved fan backlash. For those of wish to exist as an album that is likely to cement architects as a stadium headliners. It's worth checking out not only for the sake of giving it a fair assessment, but because the album is so unsure and unfocused that almost all of the band's fans are sure to find a lot to like about it. It just probably won't be all at once, all the same parts as anyone else, which I think it's reflected in your reaction. To admire action. The other thing going into this one that I want to coin as day. They released another livelm last year that was recorded during like the lockdown stuff. Was that? Yeah, that I haven't heard. That was that? Well, I strongly recommend that one. Oh yeah, it was live at Royal Albert Hall in Twent Two Thousand and twenty. So the UN before that is a great live album, particularly because Sam kind of the vocalist. His vocals sound so good on this album. They sound so much more aggressive and so much heavy. I mean they start with nihilist, the first song from all I bankers out at us. Yeah, yeah, and that just sounds it sounds so savage and violent. And then, yeah, I like modern architects, but I do feel especially of a Holly Hell. They sort of slipped into a rhythm where it's all kind of one paced here. It's just got so much more fire and energy to it. I so I was really looking forward to, yeah, checking this out because for those who wish to exist was an album of varying quality and I'm like, well, if they can inject that energy into it, and I don't think they have managed it on this one, for me at least. Yeah, this live album is not doing that much for me and I think one of the reasons is Sam's vocals don't sound as strong and I think that is because easy's standing in the middle of the room with an August or rather than like going off in this whole maybe the vibe is very different. So I don't think it's as strong a live recording as the Royal Abbit Hall One. But in terms of the the symphonic elements. So I've listened to this album twice and the first time was before I had really listened to for those who wish to exist, which is a terrible album, titled by the way, and I thought all the the or a lot of the symphonic elements really cool, cool additions. They're sometimes it has the SMM effect. Yeah, times that it locks in and it really elevates the songs and at times it sounds like you're stuck between two different ready your channels and they're not quite not because they're played badly. I just don't know if they quite match. Yes, so I thought all though, these are orchestral things, are really cool and interesting. Now we're back and listen to the element. A lot of that is already there on the album, like there are a lot of strings there. Yeah, but they just don't hit the same way. Well, there's also the electronic stuff on the album, which is sort of taken up by the orchestra on on this one. But I was surprised to go are that they've already sort of put the the strings on the album. So it's not like this is new interpretations are they are pretty much straightforward live versions and I think this is good.

But yeah, it's not really elevating the material in the way I thought it might. And Yeah, I think it could be more of a production or mixing thing because rather than boosting those songs, for me, like this just seems like a worst produced version of the album because it doesn't have the electronic so it's not hitting as hard. I think Sam's vocal sound weaker and a lot of the bass in the drums are sort of buried like the guitars on in the forefront. It's the vocals and the orchestra that are in the forefront. So when it's meant to hit, this live recording is not hitting for me, which is the complete opposite of the experience I had with the Elvit Hall one. I think he might have touched on something there. With the production, where it's probably just going to come down to personal preferences on what you want. We're in the mix, because for me it works amazing. I do agree with you on Sam's voice. I think he's still good throughout, but it takes me a couple of songs to get used to his voice right in this session sort of, and then once I've sort of as tolished a new benchmark for myself of what he sounds like, then I'm like, great, he's doing so well, but it's it is a bit different to what we've come to expect. I think. Yeah, it's a lot more subdued than he is. On that that I would whole thing. It sounds like I'm pretty down on this. I don't think this is this is a bad lie. Recrymin if you like, architecture, like these songs, like check this out. It's cool. It's just not elevating the material in the way I hoped it might. Yeah, with with the Royal Abit Hale One, it's just a life set. So it's sort of like a best of architects. This is the one album. And yes, saying those simply those symphonics are sort of already on the the recorded version itself. Like this seems sort of redundant, like it's not a like cool interpreting all of architects songs with a choir, I would with an orchestra. It's we're doing live versions of the album. Like it's not really as special as the title sort of makes it out to be, I guess, and I disagree. Okay, the strings are quite permanent. You still get the brass edited on here and shout out to the woman on bells, because the bells sounds so fucking good, especially in all the breakdowns. I love it. Absolutely don't notice the bells, but verby I listen to it again, and I will, I still check out, check out impermanence, for example, and just tune into the bells on impermanence. You were saying that. Yeah, the softer material was working for you better this version, because I agree. I think it was the heaviest stuff on the album that stood out. Are you telling me dead butterflies is good now? Yeah, okay, the play is a great now, all right, I don't know about that, to the point where, like if, if we had received this in as the actual album, it would have been an album of the contender for me. Oh okay, that's how much I like it. And the one exception, the one song that I feel is weaker here than on the studio recording, is animals, which animals was probably my favorite song of the whole year and I loved the industrialness of it and just the metallic tones to like this snare, for example, in the electronics that is all middleton, the from silosis. That is a silosis for a food, and it's a fucking Banger as well. It is. And here they like. I can understand the approach. They like. How can we contrast that by making it as natural as possible and stripping it right back and having the orchestra sort of filling instead of instead of that? So it's still good, it's just taken away my favorite elements and replace it with something else which, again I get the thinking behind it, just not what I personally was looking for. That's an interesting point because, yeah, if you're saying this elevates the softer material, I did sort of notice it. It doesn't ruin it, but it does that heaviness where I was saying with the production of the things don't hit is hard. A lot of the heavier songs, I think our little bit nuded in this recording. Like my favorite song of the album was Goliath, and it's good here. Mostly that's too because we don't have the the guest vocals from Simon Neil, from biffy Clark, who just comes in and tear us a song any lass whole, and here Sam's doing it and it's just doesn't it doesn't all right job, but it doesn't have that same impact. And the other song that I've grown to really like off this album is the one with the guy from royal blood, little wonder now yep, which is I think maybe the most electronic driven, so as that really drum sort of rollicking thing. And Yeah, just because it's this more acoustic naturalistic sound, that that song doesn't have that same kind of rolling, driving vibe to it for me. So yeah, I don't think it's bad, but it has sort of your right if it's brought up this the softer things. That has, I think, yeah, brought things down. It's called a compressed the album a little bit. But yeah, sounds like it's working for you. I I'd say check it out, but I think I was expecting a bit more from this and and I came away from it thinking it was an interesting curiosity rather than an essential sort of reimagining, which is what I wanted. But it sounds like for you it's it's pushing all the right buttons, except for the animals one. Yeah, exactly, all right, the big one. We're going to talk about ghosts impera. Is this the biggest metal album of the year? Yes, yeah, I think there's there might be a new slipnot Olmecoming, which will be technically bigger, but in terms of event releases, I think this is kind of it and I want to we're probably going to camp out and talk about this for a while, if that's cool with your color. Sure, as I've been on a journey with this record and I've been sounds like a ghost. I did not get ghost at all. When they first came out,...

...which I think they were a pretty divisive band. That's true for a lot of people, but, and I'm looking at it's two thousand and ten. Something you have to put in perspective is I was twenty at the time, so not quite as worldly as I am now. Hadn't been dumped yet, by the way. I got dumped guys, she's gonna Inform Frankin heard of ages everyone. But what I didn't get about it wasn't like there was this idea that are they're posing and they're wearing all this makeup, and I whatever bands where costumes and have images all the time. What I didn't get as well, all of a sudden we like like a cult metal now, like like no one had ever liked a band that it sounded like. This band for fifty years and now ever runs like this is the coolest Shit. I'm like, there have been bands doing this and you didn't like them. Like why this? I didn't understand ourpus eponymous, and I sort of don't really get it. I checked out the next two albums and thought they were good, but still just just didn't get the appeal of that style of music. I'm like, why are people going insane for this, but not the genre as a whole, which was infinitism in or whatever, and Milliura the next yeah, and then, well, there are three big things that got me into ghosts. One was the Song Square Hammer, which is fucking earns and they think metal injection headed as their album of the deck. It at son of the decade. I don't know if I go that far, but it is. It is very good. I mean in terms of a song doing something for a band's career. Yeah, maybe that was them deliberately trying to write a big stadium metal anthem and they absolutely nailed it. And then Prequel came out and I love Prequel. I think precoels a great element. I go back to it so much more than I thought I would. What did you love about it? It was it was more metal than a cult like. It really followed that stadium metal vibe and I think it's a different lineup and things. The style changed and it was darker, it was heavier. It wasn't this like creepy ghost stuff. It was like ghost had metal but more make up. We're not quite there yet. I don't think we've quite hit here metal yet. But it had that going for it. Thought it was great. Weirdly, of course, I'm John My bomb like I get it. Now ghost goes to great and it seems like everyone else had heavy blog dropped off. There's a real distaste for the CELM around heavy blog, and I'll they got guys. It's all like ghost. You tell me it's not cool anymore. Whatever. The the thing that really got me into them just before precol came out, is they released the live album ceremony and devotion. Say a little to that hard recommend this was all pretty pre prequel material with with square hammer and these versions of the songs. I what made me go oh old, ghost is good too. It's the opposite of the architect sing where I think they hit harder that it's BASR and and it's like a greatest hits collection, which but then looking at it, most of it's from Meliora, which in retrospect is a really good album. The problem with Meliora is the first song, Spirit Sucks, so he put it on and nothing happens. But then the rest of it is like yeah, all of that needs to be in there in their live, live set. So yeah, jumped on board. Hardcore. With Prequel, I wasn't that big on there the kissed the goog which went back to more that a cult sound. Yeah, it was really looking forward to in pair and seeing where they would take their sound color. What's your ghost experience? So I first properly check them out when Meliora came out right, and I really loved Meliora. I thought it was ninety percent bangers and that, if was outs there in my list. I agree with you. Spirit not the best track, but then, like pinnacle to the pits, a recee like ten out of ten songs. And so after I enjoyed that so much, went back checked out the first couple of records. They were fine, neither of them really clicked with me whatever. Then they had the pope star EP, which is basically just the rest of Meliora that they didn't release to begin with, and that was amazing, of course, square hammer being one of the big highlights. And so I was looking forward to pre quel, given how much I've enjoyed the previous record. And Yeah, it fell flat for me. Rats was sick and love that, but the rest of the album, like a I would have only listened to it a few times because it just wasn't doing much. Oh, I go back to Prequel like once a month at least. It does so much for me. And here we are with Empera. You don't like dance for car no, that's unfortunately, oh the OH. The other important part of my ghost journey is I saw them live just after prequel came out. The I'd love first I haven't. Haven't seen them. Well, they clashed with it was slayer, with the headliners, and it was like their last Australian tour, and then there was ghosts and the like. I hadn't really liked ghost but I thought the new album was pretty cool and I'd heard they were good light. But I went to check out slayer and I saw like the first twenty minutes or something, and slayer or really good. But I got to say him play war and simple. But I've seen slayer like live, like six or seven times. They always play the same side. It's always good. But I was like, all right, I'd get I've seen slayer. I'm interested to go see ghosts. Like I think I might be becoming a ghost fan. I went over to check out ghost and they were the band of the day. They were amazing and not like the the theatrics were there, but just they sounded great, they played great, the set was so solid, nice, and they also they weirdly, I think it was completely serendipitous, but they stopped like anytime there was a pause in between songs was when like an iconic slayer roof was being played in the background. So they'd finish it, they'd finish a song and then you'd hear...

...the stud that get that then in it, and I just stop it, ever, and I'll be like yeah, now we're going to play our on. So you could hear a sligher then that thing in the background. All right, so it sounds like it coming into imperia from very different angles. MMM. And I think this is an album that continues what precol was doing but also brings in a lot of other stuff. This this album is all over the place and I wasn't sure about it at all when I first listen to it, and and now I'm at a place where I think I like it maybe as much as Prequel, for reasons that we will get into before, without going into specifics, because I think this album, if you're on board, might be worth going through track by track. Because there's a lot going on here. But before we do that, or if we do that at all, do you want to give your overall impressions? I love it. Oh good, banger after banger. There is not a bad song on here. Okay, and it is as good or better than Meliora. Yeah, okay, I've come to really like this album, the color. You mentioned it before. This is a hair metal album. Yes, freak was on the cuff. This is a full blown hair metal album. So do you want to take back all the harsh things you said about Garish in the chronicles? The other way stand it, you should go back to that. If you're bigness, listen to the is getting the mindset throw on Garish, because I got bad news for your cal you know. I was like yeah, the I wouldn't make you listen to it. GEERISH has the exception. I lied. I totally make you listen to that. Crazy looks all, but you're in trouble because we are going through somewhat of a hair metal revival, revival right now. The other week ski row announce they're putting out a new album and they've got the Guy Eric Grunwell, a Swedish singer from the band heat, who I really like. The same day he came through them. What we're getting back with our old singer. We're releasing our new album with our classic lineup, and then that same day I got the Promo for the new crashed item. So you're in for it. Just ends up there is a lot of their metal in your future and it sounds like you're on board. One one song that isn't the fine album does not make her the movement. But this is the thing about it. Pure and pure, is all here metal albums at once, the way that you know, saying Garish in the chronicles sort of nodded towards, you know, the the title track sounded like doc and the stream war is okay. Do we want to play again? Let's play a game. What is Josh's favorite song on Impera? HMM, Griftwood. It's griftwood color, as many other reviewers have pointed out, is literally the rift of Van halen's Ain't talking about love, played at half speed, and that is not an exaggeration. It is the same notes of the same order, and then the harmonics and the chorus to the same it's so good. The singer Guy's doing. He's doing he's Best David Lee rough impression, stilling, Matt Swagger. Yeah, I love, love that stuff. But I was having problems with this album when I when we first got it, because I thought it was very uneven and it was very all over the place, because I'm being a bit facetious when I say this is a hair metal album. This is a hair metal influenced don. This is like seventy percent hair metal and then thirty percent like, because there's a lot iron maiden on this as well, and I wasn't really sure about about some of the material on there, especially some of the earliest stuff. So did the thing what I do and I rewired it. This is a prime candidate for a reorder and when I'm like I like all this material, but it seems like it goes weird one, catch you one, weird one, catch you on, weird one, catch you on, and I could never get into the groove of the album. You said that wasn't a problem for you, but I was having a real the songs by themselves were good. It was just the the transitions that were messing with the me. Now I think I want to I want to write up this is a post my restructuring of this track list because I have a lot to say about it and I actually I think I've created some kind of weird narrative. Is this a concept album? Like it seems like there's a story there, but also one of the songs is about Halloween, so I don't know if there is. I feel like there's a story to all of their albums and there's like a weird lare around them. Yeah, but I don't know how how much of a sort of specific narrative it is. Yes, I'll just an Neverl vibe. Yeah, I agree. It's like they're talking about a world or a time rather than a specific these characters doing their things. That is something I will go more into when I write this up. I want to go through this album track by track in and present my restructured order, which you didn't get a chance to listen to. I was going to ask if that changed it for you, but it sounds like I didn't need to when you like it how it is anyway. Oh yeah, like usually when I see a reordering in like Yep, Josh doing his things standard, but this time I was just like did this really need one? I thought this flowed pretty well. Okay, so, looking at it, like in the original order you got imperium and Kazarian and Kauzarin. For me is such an awful opener, and we'll get to when we talk about it, but that really threw me off. Hmm, spill ways, is there? I that's not one of my favorite songs in the alum. So it was sort of like a weaker, weirder, bombastic start. Then we get into call me little sunshine, I liked, and then hunters moons, back to that sort of softer thing. Then we have watcher in the sky. That's heavier and then we have twenties. That's weird, darkness in Mahanta, I was bombastic, and Griff Wood. That's it was. Kept alternating between this like heavier and weird. Are Heavier and weird, are heavy and weirder. Or when I say weird I just mean more like the extravagant I'm going to say, like almost show tunes,...

...theatrical side of Yep, and I could not get into a group because I felt like I was being jerked from mood to mood. That that's how I felt about it to begin with. Yeah, when I restructure things. I'm going for a couple of things. One is transitions from song to song. You want that to be smooth, but also just creating momentum, something that like drags you through the album. So the first thing I did get cause are and out of there, and so replacing perio and Kaiz Arian with dominion and twenties, because twenties was another sort of stopping point in the original track listing for me, where that's such a weird song to throw in the middle of the a s is the one song that I'm a little on the fence about. Yeah, I don't think it makes sense in the middle of the album because it feels like such a mood reset after you built up all this bombast then we go down to this like weird, dark thing, and I agree. When they're related as a single I was like, Oh, I don't know, guys, the song has really grown on me and and I like that darker tone to it, like the riff behind it is really dark and menacing. The lyrics are goofy in a way that this song reminds me of Prince Ali from Aladdin. That's what it sounds. Sounds like, but like if Prince Ali was evil. But the reason I've put this first, other than I creates a darker mood for the album rather than just the insane bombast of Kaisarion, is this song really sets the scene that the terrain for the album like this is we are in the s this is the mood, here, is the people. So I think it's a good lead into the album and I think, yeah, to drop it in the middle of album just shuts everything down at the start. You can sort of ease into it and go a year and then we would move on to yes, I want to throw Griftwood in there. That with the heavy hitters. Yeah, Putty, you want a little bit of front loader. You know, I want to be all front loader. You want to grab attention because, yeah, the fact the Griffwood doesn't come into track ten on the originals. I like. Now I want to get to Griftwood and that sort of the contrast. If twenty is dark and brooding, Griftwood is like up upbeat, catchy rocking. And in my concept that I'm building in my head, we sort of we start with the villain and then we cut to the heroes. But yeah, we are we are, as we already discussed Griftwood is van Helen's ain't talking about love flated half speed, and there's a bit of rhyming dictionary with the lyrics in the chorus, but I just the song is so good that let it get away with it. Then I would go into call me a little sunshine, which I believe is a song you really like, because you put it now and it's my favorite song from the record. Is it because it sounds like black our marrow metallica and thought about that in that way. I always I thought of it more is just like old school. Yeah, like S A S stull riffing. Yeah, it's got a real there's a real hit fieldness in the delivery. What he's doing the call me? Yeah, yeah, y'all, can hear hitfield spitting little Sun Shine? Yeah, he's doing a really he's doing yeah, yeah, right, call me a little song sounds great. It's the heaviest song on the album and that chorus is catchy. It's so good. Then you got the hand. How can you get that out of your head? I can't. I literally wake up with a different song on this album in my head every day. I've listened to it once a day since it came out at least beat. It's got the the stand up chant bit that you will never walk alone, which is again just more hair metal. That's when the drummer steps up and does the stop that points out to the crowds like you're been a front lighting there. Then I would go into Hunter's moon. So keeping that sequencing there. Yeah, it does. Moon was a song, yeah, release for the for the Halloween soundtrack that I wasn't too sure about then and I think this is maybe my least favorite song on the album. But also again, I wake up with this song every other really like it so catchy and like the stump just before he is like it's a hunters moon like that, d D Duve for me. I was having that disconnective. I haven't seen the new Halloween movies, but Halloween's like this dark murdery movie and then Hunter's moon is just like it sounds like dating around in a flower field. That's the correct I don't really get it was. I'm dropping some of that that dissonance. And Yeah, I think, especially by the end, I'm just sold by all the riffs in this song. It's great. Then a last minute adjustment. I've gone my second favorite song on the record, what I think is maybe objectively the best. I'm just such a sucker for the van Hallovisms of Griff Wood, watch her in the sky, which has the best riff of the year so far. This is that Zach wild style. What's the song? The song? Song that I like, that sounds like white snake until I too dissolve. This is some like that level, just shredding. Watcher in the sky rules definitely one of the lights. So I've sort of loaded the the front half of the record with the heavier, darker songs and to me, in my narrative I'm building my head is this is we're in the city that's ruled by the evil dude. And here's the thing. We're in the city and where we're talking a mephist off lea's and where I have a narrative in my head. It's complete bullshit. It's all making up, but like something's clicking with me here. Let's not forget this is goes to a talking about the whole thing is complete bullshit. So yes, I metal man. So at this point, yeah, I've subbed in Griftwood for spill ways and and twenties for imperiod but kept the same sort of structure, just made it more consistently in the same mood for the first half of the album. So then we can figure this neck fight here as as side be which we can start with Kazaria now, because I have set the tone. I'm in the mood for what Kais area is going to drop me, because I got to tell you, just pushing play and getting hit with Kaisaria and out of nowhere is a lot. Yeah, I'm definitely on board with that. It's it's...

...bombastic, but it also, halfway through, drops into like a dream fit, a jam keyboard section. I don't know if you've earned that on track one of the other your elm. That sounds like none of your other albums. Halfway through, where do you've taken me through? Hun Does Moon and watch in the sky? I'm like, okay, Dream theater jams should makes sense. The song also really reminds me of iron maidens running free. Oh yeah, it's got that sort of propulsive thing. So my narrative this is we've escaped from the city. Now, I don't know who Kaiserin is, but we've escaped from the city. We're on the loose in that for ourselves keyboard Solo. Does that make sense? As much saids as any of this is going to make. And then I'm going to go into spill ways, which a lot of people have said of sound sounds like Abba. No, I haven't seen anyone mentioned that. The the side of this song is just the keyboard reffrom Bon Jovi's runaway. Yeah, I'll have to go back to it. Spillways is one of the other songs that it's that and Hunter's moon that are quite clicking with me as much as the the other songs, because I think even twenties now I'm on board with the spillways is all good in my book, and you just use like Oh, I just yeah, pretty much like twenties am I. I like the idea. I'm just not it hasn't quite kept it me yet. And Kaisarian, I agree, is a bit much. But once I am into it, then I'm into it. Yeah, everything else I really really like, which they and I've been skipping over these interlude tracks which I think imperium and dominion work is sort of a side a SIB intro within have. Yeah, the BOT of passage, which should just be the start of respond on the spital fields. I do not know why that. It's a great attract someone said maybe they're playing spotify becauld. You get extra money for like songs that have played. So if you break up an intro and put it as its own song, you get paid twice for the same song. Because I did notice right Garish, in the chronicles album there is a hail to the heroes intro that's forty twos and then the title track and I was like, what's going on there? I think that is the answer. I think they're scamming spotify. Yeah, good on. Yeah, how do you feel about Bot of passage, which is the last or no? Respond on the spital fields, whether you think just you love it correct. Well, color, I'M gonna I'll secret. Ye, are a massive white snake fan. This is a white snake song in the same way that Griftwood is a talk about love. The midsection of this, the bridge that Dodo Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo, duo Duodo Doo Doo Doo Doo dud that whole section in the middle that is directly lifted from White Snake's trademark song, still of the night, which they end all their comes with that is the still of the night bridge riff, except that David coverdew got, oh maybe the over the top of it. So that's you know, that's its only fault. Otherwise, respond on the fiddle. SPIDDLE fields is another of my favorite songs on this record. I think it's real good and I notice there was this talk about this album in interviews and things where he said one of the major or the major influence on it was yet van Helen's first album. and Deaf leppards hysteria right is one of my all time favorite albums of all time. But there's a did you ever watch the classic albums documentary series, Name Work Spears and things? Yeah, there's a series of documentaries called classic albums that where they just go through classic rock albums and talk about it, writing them of things, and they do one on deaflippards history and they have an interview with the vocalist or whoever it is, and one of their songs, love bytes, which is like the love song. He's like yeah, Ladies Love that Song. And you know how you get ladies to love a song? You put a you do a little moon at the end of every line. So rather than saying love bites and bleeds. You goes, you say love Bites and bleeds. Right, so you do that. I got a bit hit pily on that last one. I reckon the I can't remember the lyric now, but there's the bit on this where he really plays into that. We goes. MMM, you doesn't think are the end of all the songs. I no shit. I reckon that is a director Arcon. He's watch that and he's like, I'm going to take the piss out of that, make it all evil and shit in sound being sounds like something. Another song that I can't think of either. I think it could be November rain the Doz, because this isn't the guitars from who used to be an orapath. Yes, yeah, yes, which she doesn't go proggier or anything, but I think, yeah, there's a different step up and just something the guitar gymnastics going on here and over the last record. All right, and then finally we fade out there, which is a good end to the album, but I do feel like I want a bit more. I'm choosing the end all things with darkness at the heart of my love. which color you love this song to? It's good. Yeah, it's not one of my favorites part I guess. I don't know. I think it's a great song, but just the you like this song is shocking. Yeah, they they described on the right act procuses. This is like Meatloaf, like I would do anything for that fair actually, yeah, except that ends with the foreigner. I want to know what love is. Court choir coming in, which I love. But when do you say that? I'm pape like, Oh, yes, I think they nail it and they pull it out and I think it's a real good way to end the album. So I'm going to write that up in more detail, but that is my take on the record. But yeah, since since reordering it like that, this album has really clicked for me. And Yeah, I've been listening to this once or twice a day. Yeah, this could end up ranking really highly in my endview list, and I really wasn't sure about it when I first heard it. Yeah, it's going to be up there for me as well. The one thing that sort of settled on when it comes to ghost is, as in general, I'm not a huge fan of the vocalist voice right, and so for me to like a most record, the songwriting needs...

...to be perfect, and I think here and on Neliura, they achieve that to the point where I couldn't give a shit who was singing. I like his voice. It's the lyrics that that are the one sort of sticking factor with me, where I get that they are tongue in cheek and funny, but I think sometimes they overshoot it. He ends up sounding goofy. But yeah, when the rest of this good plane. Sorry, yeah, they've done it, they've nailed it and they should be headlining everything, and I get it. Yeah, so this you like North Lane more than this? Now, probably put this ahead. Right, so this is this is like your number two, then? Yep, all right. In saying that, bloody wood has been going up the ranks as really go change them. Hey, I always like NU metal, so that's shouldn't come at me on bloody wood. Hey, there any anything that leads you multiples are whitesnake appreciation on my boy. All right, correct. Should we move on to special games? We should. Thank you for indulging me. I all yes, those our headlinest special guests. We're starting off with. His team is, to me, leaving this world, leaving it little behind again, a horrible, horrible album. tottle, wasn't it just called leaving this world? But it's the me are a, an atmospheric black metal band. I guess you recall the post blackmail, that sort of thing. There they're pretty as well, I would say. I don't know if I'd agree with that, but get into it. was that the errors of our ways from two thousand and twenty was their debut. I think a lot of people around heavy loogs sort of jumped on this album. I did as well. This is one of those ones I remember. I think get just missed out on my list. I was trying to get it in there, but there was other stuff. I really like this album and and black metal, especially atmospheric black metal, was not my kind of thing. I thought that was a great album, one of the most impressive debuts of the last few years. The cover artists studying. Yeah, really like that. was really looking forward to to this one. Color. You're coming from the same sort of angle there. Yeah, I was. Probably I probably wasn't as high on the previous one as you were, but I did enjoy it, despite it not usually being my my genre of choice. Yeah, I don't think either either of us so particularly big black metal fans. They really stood out. I'm struggling with this one. With this one, as that's the title would suggest. There's a lot more depressive black metal, Yep, in this and you know I'm going through the break off and everything, so I'm not really in there the right mindset to be listening to this. But even before that happened I struggle listening to this right just from an emotional point of view, I find it a bit of a bummer. How are you feeling? Probably enjoying it more than the debut. I do agree. It's more emotive and the the quiet a moments are probably the ones that they're standing out to me, like the more melodic passages on guitar. There are some cool drum patterns that can shine in those quiet a moments as well. And Yeah, I feel like this is hitting hitting the spot. It does take me a bit of time to settle into it and the climatize the sort of the tones and the vocals, which are not my usual fair but once I'm into it, then I do enjoy it quite a bit and I think it is reasonably progressive. Like it's definitely playing in the in the atmospheric world that there are some progressive elements here. And another area where I think they've stepped up is the interludes. On the previous one really didn't work for me at all and I was just like why it's here, whereas now they're giving just enough for a spite before you're launching into the next ten minute song. I remember you saying about the interludes on the first album and then gone back and being like I didn't even notice them, like because they do sort of blend into just that that atmosphere. When you said probably stuff, I thought you were going to say it more about the first time. I think there's like there's some there's a progressive bent to the hours of our ways just doing the song structures. Yeah, and maybe it's a mixing thing. Like this album doesn't sound anywhere near as dynamic to me. It sort of sits in that harsh, abrasive thing for the whole time that there's stuff going on in the background but it's not really coming through for me. Kind of reminds me a lot of like death heaven, obviously not that last deaf heaven home, but earlier death heaven, some bath but rather than being pink. It's sad. Yeah, yeah, I don't know this. This isn't really working working for me. I don't think it's bad, I don't think it's terrible, but I do struggle to listen to it and I don't think it's it would make more sense to me if this was the debut and then they came to the stuff on rights of our ways. This seems a bit regressive to me. Or, having said it, doesn't sound like that last death heaven album. there. Then the last song comes in and we get there. We get the weird joy division vocals over the top of it. Have you reckon? This stacks up against that sort of current wave of the other bands are doing this atmospheric, sort of post punk depressive. I think they're still right up there. And most of it, most of that style, doesn't capture my attention. This does, and it takes a bit of time but it gets there. And now I'm saying that. Is it going to make my list? Probably not, but I'm it's intrigued me enough that I want to give it a few more listens. Yeah, I think this would be something that would grow on me with time. But yeah, I don't think I'm in the head space to really put the effort in there. I also I don't like the cover on I think it's good. I don't think it's as good, but I still like it. It's got that water color vibe that I'm not into. All right, moving on that, I think to archaic, a Brenth of hungry ghosts. Yes, they're attack that band. I've seen are attack death band. I'd seen and...

...listen to their stuff before. They'd never really grabbed me, I thought. Yet they're a technic bad you like tech death? Do you like okay, I'd never heard of them until you sent me this. Oh okay, I think they their last album got a bit of buzz on the board. Crane. Yeah, listen to them, but they'd never grabbed me. Like amongst all the te depth bands, I thought, yeah, they're good, but they didn't stand out. This album was coming out and I love it. To contrast, there is three stuff. I think this is great, but also this is a completely different band, because I think they got rid of all the members left or something, and this is now the guitarists from desiderium, the one purple cover. You love that album. I yeah, the first one. I thought it was great, super proglyant weird. This is not super proglyant weird. This is him just getting his shred on, or he's he's chunk on. I don't know this. I think this is I wrote it up for the released around up and I said this is the best tech deut album of the year so far. You're the ten guy, though. Do you agree? Come on, Josh, this album is just archspire, isn't it? I mean, the rifting rhythmically reminds me of them so much and it is amazing. So this is really hitting the spot for me. The lurching vibe to the riffs, the use of Pinch Hermonic's, the rhythmic tugs reminds me a lot of the Groovier side of archspire. There's a touch of psycroptic in there, and every now and then they'll go a bit more melodic. I think abode the deceiver just is straight up obscura at the start. Now those are all great bands. In saying that, I don't despite seeing those influences here, I'm not perceiving it as being derivative and the way that they're integrating it just really works for me. It's it's Groovy, it's fun and, crucially, when it comes to tech death, the worries that you end up with riff salads or note soups, and that is not the case here. The songs are they're the structures are there and it's staying grounded and the tech is more just keeping things interesting around the edges of that. Yeah, I got glide. Glad you like it, because either the looks like I thought you were going to rip me when you're like this is just arch fire. I don't think this is good as that last off fire. No, it's not. A lot of the reference point you were saying Archspia, psycroptic and and what's what was the other one? You'm secure obscure there. You're not where I'd go to with this, because those tech death bands are a lot more showy, a lot more I guess I was going to say technical, but yeah, there's a lot more shredding going on. When caught me about this, and you said it a bunch of times, as well as the group right why it is? Rather than being like Progressive Tech Death, this is brutal tech death for the most part, and I think it does shift as the album goes on, but this is rather than the crosshages. This is coming from the lineage of like suffocation. This is heavy, chunky stuff, a lot of the technicalities in the rhythm rather than the leads. Exactly. The first song the ORPHEAN descent. So we would took we're talking about how Griftwood is. Is Van Halen slide down, this is buy out, his murder, slaves beyond death, sped up. That's what kind of its lie out as Beta song, sir. Yeah, that kicks in. I'm like, Oh okay, here we go. And then the title track, the Second Song, sounds like Cannibal corpse, but like really good, super brutal, sort of a visration play kill Eric Hannibal Corpse, which these bands are not the bands are usually here get thrown around a relation to tech death. But there's that, just that chunk and groove on this is great. So yeah, it sits in that brutal thing and I do think it gets more progressive as it goes along as sort of a transition than by the end of the album. It hasn't gone like full prog, but you get more prog. I think truck for broken glass, Apatheum, you get a bit of that desidarium spaceiness coming in, and then way would arpullots comes in, which is a highlight on the album for me and it really reminds me of Gorod. The last thing rod especially. Yes, they have an album with labyrinth in the title, right. Yes, Oh, Oh, do they? I'm maze of recycled creeds. Yeah, which is the one I was thinking, because I was like the artwork is kind of labyrinth thing. I think this album is an absolute ten out of ten classic. That's amazing and incredible and completely underrated. Yeah, I thought that was a great album. I wouldn't say ten out of ten classic, but I enjoyed and I know and maybe. Yeah, yeah, reminded me a lot of that, that album. And then as we go on, there's a song to suit to the summon memoreos. We're at track six out of eight by now. This is where we get sort of a rivers of nil style, style progressiveness coming in that sort of doesn't overwhelm the songs but hangs around those last three tracks. And Yeah, we're up to is. Yeah, eight tracks, forty eight minutes, which it's lane. Is the other thing about this album. It's dynamic enough as a name, a state's welcome. Yeah, yeah, because I am getting towards the Ammer, I'm like all this is, this is brutal. It's a lot, but I'm always just engaged the whole time and they mix it up. Yeah, I think this is great. And we had a lot of like big name tech death releases last year. That was sort of the year of tech death, mm. And I think, yeah, archby was the clear stand out from that. Ye, think I'd probably take this over anything else that was released. What else was there there over um like that, that album that I don't like. Let me bring that all at least from last year. Or fitty and one. FITTY and I H that was my second favorite album of there. So I'll put that above this and then, yeah, this would probably come in third for me. Okay, if we brought so this is to use. You think it is? Yep, all right. I wasn't sure if...

I just if I was going to be like yeah, it sounds like Catibal corpse and you're going to be like yeah, but actually, first fragment, because for that first fragment album that came out here, that's one where I'm just like it's just shredding. I could yet on board with that at all. Same. Yeah, I don't. Xplayer is the exception to my no shred rule. That's because there's that last o. They are good songs. They've been any other big tech that albums release this year? Yeah, or is this sort of also the best and the first one? And nothing? It's really made much of an impression. At least I think most of the techier stuff has been sort of in the little in the Death Chore Realm. There's a theorious has got some love, but that didn't do much for me. And a Legion as if you count that as tech or more melodic, I guess. All right, cool, good tomorrow. All right, switching gears completely now to humanitone, with the album a flourishing fall and the grain of sand. A good album title, album title of the week there. This is progressive start a mettle. So got the complete opposite end of the spectrum to brutal tech death. Not Normally my sort of thing, but I brought this to the blog and to give credit where it's true, I brought this to the blog because I saw it on the toilet of hell. They do or released a round up with the top pick and things. The guy there pick this as his top one. I was I marked it. I'm like, I'm going to check that out, and then I think Eden dropped on it and Pete dropped on it and people have been raving about this album. I don't know if they're going to publish anything about it for the drop, but yeah, behind the scenes have the heavy ball crowded be gone while for this. So I throw it in there. I imagine this is not the kind of thing you usually listen through color. That's right. How are you feeling about I like it. I think it's really cool and reminds me a lot of elder yeah, the the tone on the sin for the organ or whatever old school sounding key instrument they have in the background is sick and it's sort of oscillates between being really relaxing, chill, sort of sort of dued progginess with in your face big fuzzy riffs, almost sludgy at times, at towards towards the end that there are few more energetic passages that even call the ocean to mind and think more intent toit be and say yeah, not my usual wheelhouse, but I can get behind this. This is good. I thought about the ocean it's sort of that mastered on sort of vibe. Was Completely I know you see mastered on, but I'm saying masted on. Yeah, I think you're right, like chill sort of not quite background, but just like chilling out to. It has riffs, it has like heavier sections, but they never really like jump out and grab you. It's kind of they are. Yeah, I found this a good album to go back to and just like stick on while I'm doing something, and if I was like big into this style, I think this would grab me, like I like this way more than that last outer album. Yeah, the one thing I will say about it is, like these are long songs. There's a nine eleven minutes, yea. So the most father's too too, twelve minute songs and eleven minute song, nine minute song, eight minutes and then there's a four minute song. And I find often they're sort of formulaic in that they do the thing and then they go off on a on a thing, on a tangent and then they come back to the main chorus stuff, which is how every death song works, by the way, but here death songs are at most six or seven minutes here, because it's been like five minutes since I've heard the chorus, it'll suddenly drop back into the chorus and especially if I've got it on the background, like every time I've listened to this album I've gone and checked, like that's a new song. Well, because sometimes when you load things into itunes or whatever, it'll just my computer as a weird thing. I'd like two copies of a song. Right I'm constantly checking. Is this song with peat which like that? That's not a knock against it, but I don't know if it every time it comes back in its sort of like Oh, I have I heard this before, rather than like this elating. Yes, we've returned to the chorus and I think there's a bit of room here to sort of cut things down, make him a bit more concise and effishing. That's fair, but, as I yeah, I definitely came to hear that here to follow up to this and just very cool textures and terns. Good album, a great we want to stick with chiller, sort of cool vibe prog albums. The next one I want to talk about is origin of escape, its shapes, shapes an album that are Trent person being in the slack and his description of this album is it's progmatal, where the vocalist who sounds like Phil Collins. Yeah, which is definitely an intriguing premise. And then I sorr. I was I was captained by that and I checked it out and this does sound like Progmato, with a vocalist who sounds like Phil Collins. But this author sounds like cog, the Australian Progressive Band. That's which I've never thought of them a sounding like Phil Collins and I don't think they do as much as this guy. But like now I'm seeing that and I really like cock and I really like this. I think this is a very cool album. Want anything for you, Carlor. I'm enjoying it as well. This is one that took me a few songs to really pin down what it is that I thought this sounded like. Look, you tag me into slack and I was like Colo, this is cog, check it out, but by the time I actually checked it out I've forgotten about that. And so as I'm listening, I'm like the first couple of songs I'm getting modern Catatonia vibes, like the last couple of records, but more energetic, and so I felt like the vocalist was kind of going for that smooth kind of tone and that the way that he would distort his vocals or strain in some of the clean parts reminded me of bit of...

...dead leather circus, not in tone but in sort of the the way they strain. And then I was like hang on, these guitars as just Australian alt proggy metal. And so then I'm like this must be the cog band that Josh was talking about, and then I settled on the vocal actually being like the French band clone, the like a proggy, posty sort of metal band, the one that sound like talk kind of. Yeah, yeah, clone with a K. and so you know, you may have heard listeners of Europrog before. Well, today we present to you Eurocog, which is Australian alt rock base with European melodic sensibilities. So you heard it here first. Yeah, to people know cog. I'm not sure if people know, I don't think they do, but people really clogs like carnival, guys cut, they were they were the first ones on the scene and then carnival sort of jumped on board and I was like hey, this is cool, let's let's roll with this same time. Yeah, they were around the same time. I think cog was starting to tour before carnival. Well, at least bit of a tangent here, but I wrote and evolution of the Australian music scene deep dive years ago and and that's the title that it got given by an editor. That wasn't the title that I gave it. I was just wanting to talk about the Australian music scene in general and did a bunch of interviews and I started off by saying start, starting with carnival and how great they are and they cog and the butterfly effect were sort of bringing that scene forward. And then I got rip didn the comments by what do you mean? Carnival, like cog, was first, you should have given them more respect, blah, blah, blah, and say yeah, I look cong great and mean the thing, sir. I was progressing a probe. It sounds like tool. That's the characteristic thing. But like cog really sound like tool. kind of all kind of sound like tool. COG sound like tool. So for people who don't know a cog, think tool, but more prog rock than old metal and sort of in the right vibe. that their first album less so, but the sharing space, I mean that's why kind of a good thing is cog only put out two albums and then they disappeared because I think the guy moved to America and they were doing like session work. They came back and reformed. That's going to be like seven or eight years ago. I went and saw their union, sure, and they were amazing and they're like yeah, we're recording a new album and then nothing for like five or six years. But I would love a new cog album. But in the meantime we have this, which I don't think is as good as either. COG album a great but yeah, this is scratching that itch and I think this album gets better as it goes is something about it. Like at the START I was like, Oh, this is pretty good, right, this is really good, this is very good, like it was. As it goes on, I think it's got a real yeah, I'm not gonna say every track is better than the last one, but I think it's sort of keeps it up like this doesn't get up, get by on just like vibes alone, the song getting the riffs, the hooks are all there are. There a Polish band which is which is weird given that they like Phil Collins and Sydney prog metals. But yeah, check them out, one of one of the cooler, more interesting, sort of smaller releases have come across this year. And also go listen shared space by cog if you like prog stuff, because it's amazing. I do like this of them. I'm still more inclined, though, I I'm if I'm feeling that bitch, to just go listen to cog or go listen to Catatonia. So the Combo is not quite clicking for me just yet, but I am enjoying it and I'm going to give it more time to see if it grows. Yeah, no, I definitely don't think this is as good as either those, but it is it's their debut. I know it's the only album they got on their bad camp. So if this is a debut, yeah, very strong start. Yeah, all right, we've been chilling out for too long. Colo it's time to amp things up with extinction, a d culture of violence, culture of violence. It's just time. It is Josh Five, six hund eighty. They are a crossover thrash band who were a side project of some members from a thrashy hardcore metalcore band. This is hell, who was sort of a set her hardcore band. I think they still technically exist, but I haven't released anything since they started this band. So it seems like everyone was just like, oh, we would like Fu thrashment of all now. Yeah, this is their their third album, because they had faith killer in two thousand and fifteen, which was the first one. I was pretty cool, is decent. Then there was decimation treaty from two thousand and eighteen, which I think, like each release, has got more thrashy and less hardcore. So the first one was made about Crossoverun desimain treaty had more testament style groove to it, sort of testament slagh influences. I really like that IM think I wrote it up for the blog. There's a post about somewhere. And then, yeah, I haven't heard anything from them since. And then they just put out a MEP really late last year, which was the CECCPEP, which stands for chaos, collusion, carnage and PROPAGATA. It was just four tracks of just real, real thrashy, very hardcore influence crossover thrash. It was very good. I think I wrote it up for the into the into the pitting, but I was sort of like, oh, it's been it's been like four years since your last release and we just get like a four track EP is, like, I don't know what's going on here. It was good. What I want to like, you know what's going on with these guys, and then like yeah, must be in leftover tracks or something, because within two months they announced to drop this new album, culture of violence color. I fucking love this. This this sounds like Pantera and I think it's super good and don't have many notes for this say. In general, it's a little probably too straight ahead for my tastes, but...

...it is solid as all hell and it has josh's name all over it. I had a sort of a bit of metallic hardcore meets Crossover Thrash. There's some slipnotisms in there. Where are they? I feel like the stump and groove that they have in some of their riffing reminds me of self titled Era Slipnot and. But then we've got sort of traditional thrash leads and Solos and some breakdown straight end. So it goes hard. It's consistent some times I'm not surprised that you're all over it. This is the hardest album of the year. This is so I did not pick up on the slip. Nothing at all, but I'll definitely listen out for that. They mean when I was saying they start off it was more crossover. became a bit more testimony, Groove Yard. The secondal this sounds like Pantera. This is Pantera worship, like this is cowboys from how and vulgar display of power era painter, like there was a missing album in between those two. This could be it and and it really is. It's like, Oh, what if Pantera weren't racist, because these songs. That's the trailer I was thinking, as you would talk of there. I gotta police, brutal in the Pantera without the white supremacy then and explicitly anti white supremacy, like this is a very politically charged album. You were talking about how the guy from fit for an autopsy sounds pissed. This guy sounds pissed. A lot of it coming through here. I didn't hear the slip knot, but what I do here here that I thought might have done it for you is a lot of trivium and did not cross met my rather the well, the METALLICA influenced trivium. So that you mean the bad trivium that shouldn't be listened to, the crusade trivium. Quite crusade more some stuff that's in there. But yeah, that earlier stuff where they're they're flirting with trivium. But there's a lot of the yeah riffs and melodies like yeah, a lot of sort of the cleaner because there's no clean sing on this, but when he sort of goes into a cleaner strain thing that reminds me of like early he fey melodies, which is I think it's more of a metallica influence, but it's being channeled through that hardcore metalcal thing and you end up in a similar ballpark. So I thought that might have clipped for you to get off my notes. My cats come and sat on my notes because of course I'm trying to read this. This is just thrash metal, but if you like fresh metal, I think this is great. There's a couple of songs here in the middle that I think it's my favorite song is one thousand nine hundred and ninety two and heads will roll, and both of these songs. Starts with riffs that I wrote like ten years ago. Do not know what to do with it. have been hanging on like whatever, and then, and then I heard him here. I'm like, that's my roof are. They did it way better to make it sound more like slayers. I just as a running thing, though, there's a behind, behind the Times has a bit at the end there's a sort of guitar melody in the background. That is the opening riff of ride the lightning slowed down. So we get a lot right in this collection. Yeah, this is this is great and like the what was? What's that? What's the band we just talked about? The album was called shapes, origin of skate, like origin of escape. I think this album, and it might almost be like a onto one. Each track is better than the last. I feel like this just keeps going and when I think there's nothing more left, they bring out more. See, I reckon that EP from last year was just left over stuff that was punky ore that didn't quite fit. There isn't a wasted note on this. Everything hits her hard. I was a little bit trepidacious about it when I first heard it, because I'm like, well, it's just riffs. It's all just riffs. And then on second listen I'm like, yeah, it's just riffs. Like the first song, the title track ends with a breakdown. That's the domination breakdown from Yah, Pantera's domination, but instead of three notes, it's just one. Let's go, don't, don't, don't, and the first time I heard that I was like, Oh, what are you doing? And then and then, and I'm like now they only need one note. Yeah, I love this. So if you like thrash metal, check it out. All right. Our final special guest, sort of staying in the same vein, is cavey. And is that how you would say that? See The am AC Veane Kline, the great below, the great blurry the this is a one man black metal project. Jacob Blond Foot. He's from Sweden, put out the debut album as covey and the funeral plier in twenty buddy, which I think a bunch of people the blog like. I really liked it because it's black metal, but it's thrashy black metal. M and then this is a pretty fast follow up for just two years later for from a one man project, and I imagine this is going to be more of my thing than your thing, but I am curious to hear what you think about this because we haven't really talked about black metal. I mean we just talked about his team, me and zeal and ardor and stuff, but this is more towards traditional black metal than either of those. Yeah, I don't think this sounds very black metal right. So this was another one that sort of took me a few tracks to sort of figure out. What is it? What bucket am I putting this into? And at first I was like it's like heavy metal but with punk in it, and then the like. Hang on, that's just thrash. So there's it's definitely thrashier than punk and it wasn't the heavy metal necessarily, but it's like power metal and thrash but it's really fast. So it's speed metal but power metal at the same time. Speed power metal,...

...and the only black metal part I get is the vocal. So the vocals are absolutely black metal, but I think the underlying music is sort of was speed power and then I look them up on bandcamp and sure enough, he knows exactly what he is because he's labeled himself as black speed metal with Pagan Viking metal influences. So Pagan Viking basically being the power that I was that I was picking up. So there's no messing around here. It's fast, it's in your face, let's go, loads of energy. It's a little too cheesy sounding for my taste, okay, and with sort of that Pagan Viking vibe, just not really doing it for me. But if you like that kind of vibe then get onto this because you would love it. Yeah, definitely. So the first album was like a thrash black hybrid, and not in the way of like black thrash that will talk about a bit later at the supports, but like a real, yeah, Mashop of full blown thrash metal with black metal textures and Ternss. For me this is more in line with traditional black metal than the debut was. The other term I've been I've seen thrown around. This is Viking metal. HMM. My cats looking he's button next to the microphone. These the so that those bells. I don't have the girl from the architects album, but I do have a cat looking at but he's got I think he's got three or four bells on his heart because he kept catching birds hasn't gone since we've moved here. Was since I've moved here. Sorry, they did get an entire possum and drag it into the hallway and eat it head faces copper. It's half a possible on the thing. I was like wow, savage, Hello Josh, here is your tribute. Well, took my mind off things. I'll say. Yeah, VI Viking metal has been thrown around in relation to this. Now, fucking metal not a subgenred meant that that doesn't actually exist, but it is a good indicator of what's going on here. Like there is an enslaved kind of tone to it. I think of enslaved as a black metal band that when you compare them to other black metal bands they don't sound that similar. But yeah, I think this is a huge step up from the debut that I really liked. I think this is got way more to it and yeah, there is that Viking sort of pagan right to it. But when you're when you say like our metal and Cheesy, I'm not really getting cheesy from this. I think this has way more in common with enslaved at their thrashiest, like on some of their early demos and things, rather than like something I don't know where. I'm going to talk briefly about Saboton and Hanniful and the supports. Like it's not that kind of cheesy. It's not even like a modernmouth cheesy. Yeah, I think this is great and this is a lot more varied than the earliest stuff as well. Like, again, it might be that enslaved influence. When I wrote it up for the reason release day around up I said there's like a bit of a proggy vibe to it, and I don't think there is, but there's something the tones and Theresa. It's like what if enslaved wrote thrash metal? The other thing that this really brings to mind for me is, do you know naggle far no, NGL FAAR? They're like a black metal band, black and death metal band. They've been around for a while, but they're twenty two thousand and seven album. Harvest it was. It was a big album in my black metal appreciation development and I would have been seventeen when that came out. That came out the same year as my favorite demry Borgo album and Sortedi Ablee, and those two albums, which have a big chunk of like thrash and symphonics to them, I think. Yeah, there's a lot in common between those albums and this and if any of those, if you like any of that. Yeah, checked it out out. I think it's it's really cool. All right, those are our special guests. All Right, so we can smash through some support pots, because there were quite a few other big releases out this month that didn't really warrant talking about. I mean the one, the major emission that we're not really talking about here was the vein record. Yeah, that one's called this world will this world is going to ruin you. So when don't we start with that one, Josh? Yeah, so, I mean we've put this down in the supports because you weren't really that interested in it, I don't think, and I have already reviewed it for the site. So if you want a big and depth review of this album, you can go check it out on heavy blog. Briefly, to summarize my thoughts on this album, I this is really disappointing to me. I loved fans debut, Aero Zone, which had a lot of slip knot new metal electronic elements to it amongst all the crazy math care hard car. That was a really unique, interesting, wild sounded album. And then this album came out with all this stuff about what going back to our roots man, which just immediately run me the wrong way. For a band on the second ALB Blay. I know they've been a right while that put out, for there was a lot of posturing and yeah, this is real hardcore, so advised to it and then I got it and it just sounds like a real stock standard, like heavy hard cre own. It's fine. I just think it's really regressive and doesn't really stand out. I think it's a horror version of the end album that came out a couple of years ago. But all the reviews for this have been insanely glowing, apart from mine. People saying this is a huge step up from Arizona and there into weaving all the different influences to the point where I'm like, I really feel like I've did listened to a different album. Like when people are saying there's all these different elements in I'm like, this is just straight ahead intense math call for like half an hour. So I imagine this isn't really your thing, but do you have a take on vain caror my take on Vane was. Why did I have to listen to this where you didn't, especially after supports? So, yeah, I thought the first half. The first half lines up with what you were saying and I thought it was fine. Incidentally, it gave me a headache both times that I listen to it. It's but, but that may...

...be related to other things. But in any case, I thought it was a diet version of something that other hardcore and new metal bands are better at. And then the second half, with the weird spoken word and clean sections, just did not work for me at all. I hated that and so, yeah, I did not like this album. Yeah, that last song with the spoken word section I really don't like. And that's a case of like vein was such this unique and exciting band and like, Oh now you're doing nothing every hardcore band has done for the last few years. And there I've read multiple reviews where people said, yes, it's being that they do it better than everyone else and they don't Endo it way better than this. Yeah, I agree, sir. Disappointing to me. Another one I want to talk about quickly because we say ghosts was the biggest metal release, but the other big release this year we're just talking like sheer numbers is there was a new sabbatinel and Sabatona fucking huge. This is the Swedish power who metal band. I mean, yeah, there's not much of a power metal contingent at heavy blog and are eating doubles. I occasionally double when it's probably or thrashy bit. So yeah, Sabatoon not really something heavy blog would usually pay attention to, but they are huge. I also think Sabatina very good. I like a lot of their mid period stuff and I saw them live at hell fest and they were one of the best bands of the of the weekend. They were great and that was when I was like a lukewarm Saboton Fan, and that single live I was like, oh, they're really good. And that was on their album two thousand and fourteen called heroes, which is my favorite Sabaton Alman. That is an unpopular opinion because people see this as kind of a disappointment after the previous two or three. That one, for me works because it's harder, heavier thrash here. Since then they've sort of been releasing different variations of the same album, which are fine, and the water end all wars I think doesn't have as many highlights as the last two, but is maybe more consistent. But it is literally just another sabaton album. So yeah, not really worth talking about. I'd imagine you don't really have a take on Sabaton at all and I shaken. He said, though I wanted to put this here to point out there was also I think it was the month before, in February, there was a new hammer forum. Do you do hamm a full color and not? who was sort of the Saberton before Sabaton. They were going to be the big power metal band and then they kind of bottled it with a few dud releases in the middle of their career. Sort of every other hammerful album is really good. The last sort of very good one was revolution from two thousand and fourteen same year. I saw them on the tour for that and they were great as a live band, just really fun, cool night out. And yeah, this album, Hammer of dawn, nothing it's nothing special, but in contrast to the sabatine album, I think it's way better. It's got a lot more vitality and energy to it and they're sort of doing a thing where they're now. They're old dudes. They're sort of like GRANDPA's power metal at this point, and this is an album about being GRANDPA's who love power metal. It's all about growing old and think. So, yeah, nothing to run out. If you're not a hammerful fan, don't bother. But if you like power metal and you've sort of fallen off because hammaful of just been releasing an album every couple of years that you don't care about, this one's worth checking out. It's a lot of fun and I thought it was sort of interesting to see that they had a bit more life and energy to them than Sabaton, who seemed to have fallen into a bit of a Rut, despite being absolutely enormous. I guess, then, the other big release for the last month, especially in terms of in relation to heavylogging, the stuff we saw a cover, was there was a new animals as leader's album. Yeah, per race here, per he's theory's yeah, I don't know. Now I thought this might have been something that you would have been eager to discuss, but when I asked if you want to, you like now. So, animals as leaders, I haven't listened to them in a long, long time and when the joy of motion came out was right around when I was just getting into metal and prog for the first time, and so I was like, Oh wow, this is sick, and I went back to their through their back catalog and loved it. And then within a year I'd probably stopped really revisiting it that much but still thought fondly of them, and when the madness of many dropped, it was just a mess. I mentioned earlier that with technical music, riff salads and note soups are what you want to avoid, and that's exactly what those that record sounded like to me. Just meanded along seemingly at random, and I couldn't tell whether it was my tastes that had shifted away from the style or whether it just wasn't as good as the previous material. And so with this album I feel like it's a little bit of both. So I think there's more actual songs here and better songwriting on display, so it's a bit of a return to form for me, and the playing, of course, is still as ridiculous as it's always been. So I'm enjoying this a lot more than the last one. But then, saying that, I do think my taste of shifted a bit away from this style and so I don't anticipate this to be making my list. I came to heavy blog with my first post of Ding off the entire gent scene. Again. That was well, I remember that as Jenda is it. That is a genre full of great debuts and little else. I think was the title, which sort of speaks for itself. And okay, Perophrey and test her act, I'll given them, but they're the big ones, they're the exceptions, and I think animals as leaders are sort of proved my point pretty hard. That first animals as leader's ELM is so amazing, so incredible and just absolutely genre and music classic. And you know, I'll give him the next two. WITLESS has its own identity that I can appreciate and and I think...

...it's pretty good. And Joy of motion is sort of more of the same, but but quite solid. I don't even remember madness of many, but it really is like the debut is so good and the rest it was fine and they're probably doing better than most gym bands. I think this album sucks. It's there's not enough rif salad and shredding on this. This is really dull and boring. To me like I wanted shred. Yeah, right, maybe I'm not. It's just nothing stood out about it, and when they went into the grooves, it seems like it was always the same groove. Yeah, I think I would prefer something like I mean, I don't remember it, but the madness of many like if it is just like I kind of want craziness from animals as lead. It's like that first album is good because there are songs there as well. Yep, the blend is the ideal, but if you're going to go one way or the other, I think when you're tost in a bacity and animals as lead as I want to have my mind blurred like that. This sounds like gentriffs that any other gent band would write, rather than the best guys in the game like playing to the best of their ability to me. Right. So, yeah, another's down on these as that, but it's also not pumping me up too much. Yeah, I mean, I don't remember that last one, but for me this is the worst animals as ladis album by a mile. But you know, I don't think I'm really in from the mood for it now either. So that's animals as leaders other bigger releases that came out this month. There when you albums from Crowbar, about and midnight, who I have grouped together, as these are all albums I was really looking forward to. That really let me down. I was particularly looking forward to the new crowbar album, which is cold, the fear that binds you. Crow Bar a band that I forget I like so often and then rediscover every couple of years, and the most recent case of that was when that employed to serve album came out. We did an anatomy of with them, talking about their influences, with the Guitarist Sammy, and he picked crowbar album or crowbar song, which just, yeah, unlocked that employed to serve album to me because I'm like, Oh, the bounciness. It's not you metal, it's no a sludge, it's crowbar. And then I went like there was a month where I just listened to Krobar nonstop, and they've got a pretty consistent back catalog. I mean it's the ones, the ones he picked was sonic access in its purest form and equilibrium. Old fellows rest broken glass. There's like a four or five album run in the middle that's just perfect. And then they've sort of tailed off in their later days but really consistent and I think this is their worst album by like a showing. This is the first bad crowbar album. I think it's really boring and they sound like tired. Yeah, it's rough. I've only listened to it like one and a half times, but I couldn't even get through it. So, yeah, the first time where I've actually remembered. I like Crowbar, was looking forward to it. Just really let me down on about let lead dude from a model, or was I really like a model a lot? And like the first out solo album, saw him live. He was great. As a reputation for being drunk and sloppy live, the night I saw him he was on fire. Second out, other album came out and didn't do much for me and but it was okay. This one, I think, is it's just boring and planned. Yeah, the mixings off and along the same lines. Midnight, do you know midnight? That's of night when we were talking about black and thrash metal and said Black Thrash. In terms of bands what sound like venom? Right and midnight sound the most like venom. And I also sort of the big guys in the scene at the moment for good reason. have been very good for a while now, HMM, and their previous album, rebirth, by bless me from two thousand and twenty, was a real standout. I think it's definitely their best album. And so yeah, again. First Time. I've been looking forward to a midnight ELM. Went into this one and it's the same song over and over again, every n you can look at the track list of this and in imagine just rudimentary Vedin riff and then say that the some title in a graph voice in sin falls secret. Say Right, you can just would it and and that that's it. It's just, yeah, rudimentary riffs and repeating the same song title over and over again. I found it really dull and disappointing. So couple of bumbers there. There was also a dark funeral album, which is good but hasn't really grabbed me. What I thought he might have been interested in talking about, but you weren't, was there's a new plus Bo. Well, I don't know why. You struck me as the kind of guy who would like for see brow. I have listened, given them a couple of shots and their mine, but haven't they've never really grabbed me in the way that they're contemporaries did cool. Yeah, much like a Crobo Pall see, borrow Bra and I forget how good they are and then rediscover pretty frequently. The first four passiver albums I think a pretty great and then they really lost me after that when they went into just sort of more floaty of sounding stuff. This is the first passy album I think it's like nine years or something. So I was like interested to check it out and briefly, the first half is everything I don't like about later period receiver, and the second half reminds me a lot of why I like Elie for see B at. The second half is really cool and interesting. I don't think it's as good as those first full plassy by albums, but sort of recapture some of that. So I'm interested to go back to it, except that plassy bar are very depressing band to listen. Sorry. Yeah, I am not in the head space at old. Best one I get over things, I will go back to this album and maybe it's pretty good. I was also really looking forward to the new Charlie XX album. She's someone I haven't really enjoyed our previous material because she's sort of experimental...

...pop and then here's more mainstream pop. The singers were really great. I was looking forward to this one. I think this album in no small way contributed to my breakup. So I sort of been ruined for me and I gave it one listen because because I had to know. I'm like, yeah, that's good, all right, moving on. I think in any other year I'd be raving about this. I've been talking about how it was the best pop album of the year, but Charlie xex and go fuck herself. Yeah, and I also there's a it was a night rage album that came out. And do you know nightrage? No. So nightrage our band. They've been around for a while now, but their first album came out in two thousand and three was called sweet vengeance. Is very good and is sort of seeing as a follow up to at the gates laughter of the Soul, because they were broken up at the time. Okay, and this has Thomas Lingering on on vocals and Gust Gy of Fire Wind, and I was he, I was born and Dream Evil. He is on guitar. I think there's the guy from dissections on base and stuff. So they were a bit of a super group. It's very early at the gates sounding, and then they've released a bunch of albums are very in quality. I think the Puritan and the venomous to that I really like, and then the others you can sort of take a leave. This new one, abyss rising, I think is a good one. It is thrashy, mellow death and it's not really doing anything, you know, particularly intro useful. But if you like at the gates and that sort of starting to do well, I will definitely be checking them out. Than yes, Amiss rising is the name of that. Yeah, it's good all right. The other stuff I had in here were a couple that I thought you might like, a smaller releases. So first we had from last month. I wanted you to check out the Korea, but I particularly wanted you to check out the courier in relation to the North Lane out, because the Korea are a Russian gent metalcore band. I think their first album was a bit of a cult release when Gent was first coming up and then, as I point out in my article about way bands only have one good album and then they suck. That's pretty much what happened with the Korea and I think they went away for a while. This is sort of a comeback album for them and it's a lot more melodic that I remember them being. I got this around the same time as we got there the North Lane. Yeah, and so there was a quite a big contrast there. I obviously prefer this. It's more metalcore influence. I mean they do that off bark thing a lot, which I think is a knock loose thing. I wish that sort of went away. Yeah, it's doing heavy metal core with jetty riffs and then we have these big melodic choruses, more older North Lane than the new electronic North Lane, but I just thought this was a better tider take on that sort of sound. How do you feel about it, car well, you're right, it is very much my genre, with the gentee metalcore base to it. I thought it was kind of like budget sick at times. YEA, and overall I think it's a cool album, but it's struggles to break through the fine barrier for me, and so it's pleasant enough but it doesn't stand out from the crowd. Yeah, I think this is the most I've liked my career album just because it's more melodic. Like there's a roomphasis on that like again that Lincoln Park influence, that as another connection to what North Lane is really there. I think they're it's not breaking through the fine barrier for me, like I enjoyed this while it's on them and I forget about it. And I think the reason that is is because it's in Russian, which isn't to say Ben should sing in Russian, but because I don't speak Russian, these hooks don't stay with me. I do find that discussion on language interesting in and love itself, and that for me, foreign languages have zero impact on my enjoyment or my ability to to for an album to stick with me. Yeah, there are bands that singing other languages where they like the hooks don't matter or just it. or I mean someone like Ramstone, who we're going to talk about next month, right. You remember those because it's the rhythm, it's the delivery of them that is the hook, other than the words themselves. Here, where it is that big, clean metal core chorus. either. These hooks aren't good enough to be remembered just for they're like rhythm, elevation. Yeah, melody, but I do wonder if there was something where I like the words would stick with me because I can remember. I turn me into a battery. I can fucking remember that. If there was something here where I would like, like with the ghost album, wake up and have the song in my head, be prompted to go back to it rather than listening to it, have it wash over me and go that was cool. Yeah, so I wanted to get your take on this, but fine, we're sibling. A fine, Yep. Another album I thought you might like is last of Lucy. This is a tech death band that I don't really have a take on. I just saw a lot of sort of hype and TEP death circles around this band and its release when it came out. This doing anything for you now? Last of Lucy, as much, is another one that I didn't break through the fine barrier and like it's it's fine, it's that's yeah, not much else to say. Really Chic, right. No, yeah, I just wanted to be like, Holo, is this a good tech death album, and you're like yes, all right. And the last one, which I do think is a good detective album, is an album by band called hell bare an up to coons opticons, and these guys sound like modern psycroptic with Randy Blythe on vocals, which is a lot for me. Is it? That's working for you? So it's yeah, it's solid as all hell, real consistent and for me lamb of God is the main touchstone here. Tasty, groovy riffs, well produced be like lamb of God adjacent material, than this should be right up your allee. It hasn't made the huge impression on me when I'm not listening to it at like hasn't stuck with me,...

...but I enjoy it when it's on, so I'll give it a couple more lessons and see if it can stick around. I agree. I don't like this isn't going to make my inndy list or anything, but I was expecting, like, looking at the cover of the logo, like their logo looks like the Archfire logo right. I was expecting like techntech down and then I got lamb of God and I think they do a really good job of it, and this is their debut. So I don't think this is it, but I'm sort of, yeah, pretty excited to see where this goes, and it's a good one. If I just want to stomp around us and riffs or through this. Yeah, exactly fun and checking that out. All those, all the albums we wanted to talk about this thing. It's cool people time. All right, let's do it. For those that Sunglass, for all of you listening. Yet the glasses are off and the sunnys are on. For Josh it is. He's in the phraser, he's in the Fraser. It is cool people time. Pretty cool right now. Yes, this week we are going to talk about anil me either called close or close my a band called Messa. And yes, so cool people time. I'll take on it. For the other initiated is this is when we listen to albums that cooler people than us like that we're not cool enough to appreciate. And in this case it is a very specific person who is cooler than us, because Eden, our Almighty editor in chief, has been raving about this album. I can't read my thing through my sunglasses. Yeah, rather take them off and just take my face up to the screen. Yes, in Moviad this for heavy Bott and said when mess up were before just an excellent doom band. Close lifts them up into the realms of experimental musician able to capture that most elusive of prizes. Are Challenging, intricate and overflowing album, but still manages to be accessible and impactful on the emotional level. In that sense, there's something for anyone on this release, more than on any previous Messa album. Sorry, seemed like a good one to jump into it. So what is this album? It's sort of like do me, but not doom metals like do me rock. It's doom metal instrumentation with all clean vocals and weird stuff thrown in, or different stuff thrown in. What we say do metal. Not like funeral doom or like death to Mrs like like Sabbath, yeah, but more what's it like? Cathedral or no, electric wizard? So that's sort of vibe. Like Fuzzy, yeah, with a sort of a ranty POZZUZER, but not extreme like that sort of weird, sort of chanty textures to it. There's a real times, yeah, ritual vibe to a lot of the tracks. Yeah, I was very surprised when I found out this band were from Italy. Me Too. So yeah, it's an interesting one for sure. How are you feeling about it? And I'm thinking, as this as interesting as it is, at the end of the day it's still boring metal, as Nott's say. It's say boring metal. Yep. So I enjoyed that. The vocals were claimed all the way through and that was not what I was expecting from a doom record and a bit different and I thought that was cool. And the addition of other other instruments, like I think there's sex and brass at times, there's percussion, there's Mediterranean style acoustic guitars. They added all for me, I thought the Solos. Usually I'm not much of a Guitar Solo Man, but the Catar Solo is here were unexpected in sort of they're phrasing and I thought they did some really interesting stuff there. So I can definitely see why this album is getting the love that it is and I think objectively I can say that I think this is a really strong album. It's it's core sound, the the main do metal parts just not my thing. So boring metal it is. The up the Appareschel on the boring metal. Good, interesting boring metal. Yeah, yeah, I was. I quite like this. I think I definitely like it more than you. I'm not in love with it, but I'm definitely intrigued by I enjoy it. While it's on. I was surprised by like it is experimental one. There's all these different elements you've listed, but I was so surprised by like how subtle it was. They sort of just leaving in the background and then like Oh, there's a there's a brass bit in there. Rather very well put together. Yeah, yeah, one of its witnesses is I do think it does sort of sit in that doom thing too much that if you don't like that doing foundation, not going to be into it. But I was expecting something really wild and crazy from this and instead the bandit reminded me the most of our band called Castle, who are a two piece UK like Black Sabbath worshiping, like doom metal band who, yeah, I liked a lot of their early alms and they sort of lost me with it with the last one. But they also have a female vocalist who sounds really similar to the lady on this one. So it reminded me a lot of them. If they went yeah, then plus electric wizard and then just like weird shit thrown in. Yeah, I like this. It doesn't grab me because it's like that kind of music that you know. I like fresh metal and extinction eighty and stuff, whereas this is like slow and ponderous. Yeah, I like it, I just and I want to listen to it more. I have no idea when I would listen to this. Like what mood? What have I got to be doing to put this on and have it be I don't know, maybe I might have a bath later and listen to this. That might work. No, it doesn't really fit into my day, but I'm intrigued by it and I've enjoyed it, so I think I've all then. I think that's fair. I like that Borrowsm we talked about on the first thing, but I think this is a...

...better one. No one's told me which borrows album to listen to, but that's probably because no one could find our feed, which is a reminder. If you like what you hearing or you just want to make a dumb joke, leave us a five star review and tell us a silly review pun that we can use for a episode title. I don't I really don't know how long I'm going to kick that out, but yeah, all right, that was much and hopefully this will actually go out on the website in a timely manner once we get everything sorted out. Thanks for doing this color and humoring me with my ghost breakdown and everything else. Good to be here. Thanks rush. So we'll be back next month with tentatively looking. We got some big releases. We got stuff albums from sugar monuments, Ramstein, carpet of brute. You interested in that? Ramstein? I'm I'm not sure. I'm not hugely into Ramstein, but lately the last couple of years I've been on some more of an industrial kick or or records integrating and industrial elements have been been grabbing me, so I'll give it a crack. Will check it out. There's also there's a new crashed eye out I mentioned. There's an ocean grove album. ASTRONOID and destruction some of the stuff going on there. Are there anything you're looking forward to coming up that we want a flag and advance. I have no idea what's coming up. I'm always just checking out your recks in the released around up posts. Well, thanks, color, all right, we have. We'll be back in apprit for that. By Tep.

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