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Episode · 3 months ago

22-4 Review. Erase. Improve.

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Headliners: Meshuggah, Monuments, Crashdïet, Rammstein. 

Special Guests: Ocean Grove, Audrey Horne, Crown Compass, The Spirit, King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard. 

Supports: Reckless Love, Delvoid, Destruction, Cancer Bats, Black Matter Device, Void Dancer, Denzel Curry, Kirk Hammett, Undeath. 

Cool People: Health – DISCO4 :: PART II.

[Sorry about the squeeky chair!]

All right, we already did the hay color. How you doing? Thing about my obnoxious Hillo to start the okay, well, okay, we can start. We can, we can, we can properly start. All right, I say, Hey, color, how's it going? Hey Josh, how are you? You didn't do you big high. We did the we reset so you could do a big high. You didn't do it. Hey is still high. It was loud. That's what matters. It's my part of the it's my it's my intrade. So but out. Fair enough. Yeah, we're back. And what are we doing this month? That it's April, we're going to do the April line up, m our lineup for this month or last month, for April's lineup. We have our headline as MS sugar monuments crushed it and Rumstein that we'll be getting into their the the big name releases that I think deserve an indepth discussion that we have have our special guests, sort of the smaller releases that we can go worth highlighting, from Ocean Grove, Audrey Horn, a crown compass, the spirit and King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard and supports just some other releases we thought deserve a a quick mention and discussion. From delvoid destruction can't abouts black matter device, Benzel, curry coke came it reckless love and undeath, and then cool people time with healths disco for part two. Let's get into it. Yeah, let's start off with I guess my sugar is the the biggest release. We got it up the top. Maybe Ram start, but I think in a in a blog perspective, sugar are the big ones and sugar with immutable sugar with immutable the UNMOVING lords of a technical, progressive metal. I love my sugar, big sugar fan. In retrospect I'm like, it took me a while to really click with the sugar and it was Obsen that coming on board. But then I realize we're obs a Obsen. When did that come out? It Thousand and eight, two thousand and eight. So I'd sort of dabbled in my sugar, didn't really get it. Obsen came out immediately clicked with me like I heard combustion. I was like, oh, but I was eighteen when Ibsen current came out. So surprised. Sixteen year old me did not understand chaosphere for my actual adult life I'm life in a huge m sugar fan. I have my old ruddy coloss Hoodie that I wear to all the gigs and inevitably someone stops me and goes our cool jumper man. Every time I wear the colors foodie. If I wear anything else, no one cares. The colors footy gets the recognition. Sir, if you've seen a guy hanging out at gigs in Melbourne and a m sugar coloss city, that is me. Yeah, are a big Fan. I wasn't huge on the last album of Lance, sleep of reason, which I think is generally seen as a step down from some of their stuff, although I've warmed on it in time and I think I'm Ed's a review of it which I read recently in preparation for this really sort of sold me on a little bit more. He was saying it's like, because he does music theory stuff, where he's like this is actually maybe their most advanced, like technical album and and I think that review is a really interesting read if you haven't really revisited the Vance sleep of reason. So yeah, bigm sugar fan and probably more so into their their modern stuff than the earlier stuff. I think you know most people it's the other way, whereas for me, coloss might be my favorite of theirs. I think it's an amazing album. So, yeah, into intermate sugar, into modern sugar. How about your color? Well, despite their Guy Gangu and status in prog and tech circles, not really spent a huge amount of time with them. When I was first getting into the sort of prog in general, I found them impenetrable on my piscible even exactly. And then, like, I never really gave an album ages, just songs here or there, and didn't really click. The first proper album I listened to was the violent slape of reason when it came out and like, I enjoyed it. I thought that was pretty good, a bit long, but pretty good. And here we are with immutable. Well, before we go to immutable, have you been like back since, and not since the year it came out? Or not? Not to the other way, back into the catalog? Yeah, because, as I just said, yeah, the violet sleep of reason is generally seen as like the weakest sugar album, probably, so I would recommend. Yeah, obsens the one. Then for me colluses on part, although I think that is a fairy a regular opinion. So here we are with a mutable and I'm going to come straight out and say that, yeah, this album is not it. I am I am not fit on this at all. When I am alluded last week to what are they called? North Lane was, I'm going to be my least favorite alm we'd reviewed for another month. This is what I was referring to. Since then I've given a bit more this in. I've cooled on way initial sort of gut reaction. I do prefer this to the north lane album, just because I like the sound of a sugar more than I like the sound of North Lane. But if I was to take myself out of it look at these albums objectively, I think the North Lane is a far more successful record in terms of what it's going forward, it's trying to do. Yeah, it's not something I particularly like, but I think they're getting closer to what they were aiming for here. I don't think m sugar anywhere in the Ballpark of what they're trying to do with this album. Will get into that a bit more, but let's get your initial impressions. The second M sugar album you've ever listened to. How you feeling about a mutable and feeling that there's...

...some weird time signatures. There's guitars that go chug chug and the vocalist that goes Ra Ra and it's about sounds the same pretty much all the way through for a long time. Yeah, like the the most interesting part for me was the Solos, like the Solos really stood out to me and the first few songs and like this is actually pretty cool and interesting. And then the solos sort of became the same on every single song and I was just like, okay, like it was cool for a couple of tracks, but now it's a whole album of the same solo. So I don't know. I I was writing it off as maybe this band just isn't for me, but if you're saying it's the album, then maybe I should say, well, no, this is even the people who like like this album. This is, if not the weakest M sugar album. Like it's between this and the debut, which I have a very I like the debut quite a lot. But no, this is even the people who like it a going. I still like it's really good. It's this is nowhere near the quality of their other albums which, until the valance superd reasons. They didn't really have a die. Like if you were, if you're intimate sugar, which who knows if you are, but you've and we listen to the to sort of waiting off ones odds that you need to listen to obsent because it is responsible for all the music what you like, including that North Lane album. That you say about the Solos is interesting because that's sort of a point of discussion around the alum so do you do you know anything about the context or background or they are you just going in completely, completely blind? All right, so this album's sounds like they're maybe over it, because maybe they're over it. This has been the longest gap between albums for them. So this is to two thousand and sixteen was the violent sleep of reason and then six years between albums. HMM. And the violent sleep of reason was a bit of a nomally because it was more or less entirely written by the Bass player, who was a new addition to the band. So they got a new guy in had him write any album. Yet. I'm sure you know there are other contribution, but that's the general story. And then this album is the same in that it's mostly led by him. And and the drummer, Thomas Hark, who is maybe the best drum I ever, although you couldn't tell from this album. I mean you can't deny that the technical prop chops that he shows. I don't even know if he if he really shows them on this album in terms of the right so for sugar, of always historically being described as mechanical has been the the word that's applied to them because, yes, there's is really complex technical groups and they used to talk about that. Like in they would start writing song, they just pick two numbers and ram them together as a time shing issuing, jam that and see what comes out right. Really sort of mechanics first. And they had a catch thirty three and I, which were like they pioneered the drum kit from held the software to essentially write drum parts that he couldn't physically play. Lead, which is their big song, which I hope you know, bleed from odds end with the crazy drum pad that was written on the the drum machine and then he had to learn that so he can play it now. But he like yeah, yeah, I didn't think any human just sees those notes and is like, Oh yeah, I can play this first right. Well, yeah, the bleed riff is one note and then, yeah, it's like the open note with the band and then I've spent afternoons trying to no, I can't, can't do it. I can't get the where of the breaks. It's crazy. So, yeah, they're very good. Colt. So, since coloss which was the album that came out after obs and, there's been this leaning towards a more organic writing style and sound. I don't know if you really hear it so much on coloss but definitely the violence sleeper reason and definitely hear they're going from more of that. Yeah, Organic Jam vibe, which this album was written as the drummer and the Bass player and and maybe the other guitarists getting together and just jamming stuff out and see and seeing what happens rather than I think that is a great starting point for me. This sounds like the demos, this sounds like the jams. This doesn't sound like the songs that have them been refined because, yeah, they just hit a groove and then it just goes on for fine nuts. Yeah, so to bring the the the Solos back into it, because that's what the point I started with the Guitarist Frederick Thortenholl, whose solo sound like that and he's like an amazing guitarist, he seems to be less and less invested in the in the band as well. He didn't do any of the writing for this or the last album and he didn't play on it, apart from those Solos, which he has a very distinct solo sound. They his solo sound like the Solos. Yeah, but yes, when he's so there's there's less Solos, less lead work here, which sort of makes the song sound a bit more monotoness and things. But when he saw his come in, I just think they're nothing. Sort of like the Kerry King of Tech Metal. nowurst they all sound the same, like he's brought in some really cool lead lines of melodies and in the old work that just aren't on this one. Yep. The other point I wanted to make about that is the band this album reminds me of the most is actually trivium, which doesn't make any sense for a yeah, a sonic aspective. Well, so this is a met comparison right. This specifically reminds me of early trivium in that I love the first thirty seconds of every single one of these songs. The riff is awesome and then it all falls apart in the vocals are horrible. So yeah, I think. Yeah, the Vocalis CIENS Kidman, who has a very monotonous, rough delivery. And again on the older stuff that really works where he like clicks into that rhythm and it's almost like this concussive thing, like, especially on a song like proverse or something from from Obsen. Here, it just like he just comes in and does some rambling and then and yeah, this none of these...

...songs feel finish to me. Yeah, every instrument feels one, not vocals included, like they just sort of doing the same thing and they've been they've got one thing they want to do and they just doing that one thing over and over. Cool. I'm glad you enjoyed your jam session or something like you were saying. Are you see the technical prowess and stuff like the the snare hit on the fourth note or whatever it is that has become a cliche of Mussugar since obsen. That just that's how he writes it. I think they need to right and album where they ban themselves from putting a standhit on the on the floor so I have called on this a bit, like I don't think it's a successful album. I don't think it's a complete abomination. But what do you think of the ten minute instrumental? They move below it? Is that on this it's sure is. It's in the right in the middle of the album, track seven, there is a ten minute instrumental track that goes are like weird and spacey and then they end with a six minute instrumental as well. That, just because you can see I remember it so clearly, was the highlight of the album. Well, yeah, so to some of the the other critical appraise of this album, at a common thread has been this instrumental a that doesn't need to be there or be needs to not be ten minutes. Yeah, I've done a little bit of experimenting trying to get this album work. I'm not I'm not going to do like fig resequence thing like we did a ghost. I promise, though. I sort of thought, yeah, that instrumental, it's not there, it's not finished, but it is the like the most different thing on the album. I wish that was a starting point, that they took that one and then and went off in that direction. Or so, even though that tracks not successful. That's the one time on the on the ALB where I'm like, Oh, you're trying something, you're you're reaching something here. So I have actually found, because I find this album exhausting, the by the time, yeah, the first like six songs and then you hit a ten minute instrumental, I'm done with it right whereas I actually find a lot of the more compelling stuff is in the back half of the album. So I have given it a couple listens where I've actually started with that, that ten minute instrumental they moved below put that as track one, was on the second half of the album and then into the first part of the album, and I find that working a lot better for me, because the first half is really monotonous and even though the riffs are good, it's exhausting, whereas if I have the first half of the album to sort of get me in the mood, by the time I hit there I'm sort of locked in a bit more. Yeah, so that that has just been something I tried and when okay, this, this sort of makes it make a little bit more sense. But as it is, yeah, if I find this al I'm exhausting and the desperate moves of the die hard and sugar fans. Yeah, I'm at also reviewed this one for heavy blog and he gave a fairly lukewarm reception of it, but he concluded that anyone coming into immutable expecting the sugar to innovate like they have been before would doubtless leave solely disappointed. But should a more experienced listener treat immutable like the hourlong victory lap that it is, and almost celebratory retread of the band genre defining sound and accomplishments, then it can still end up being an enjoyable listener, and especially so for anyone who's already been on board with them sugar, on board them sugar trained for a while now. I don't think that. As a longtime a sugar fan, I don't think this is a a satisfying victory lap. I think you could have said that of the violent sleep of reason. But yeah, it's not as good, but they're doing the thing. I wasn't really expecting anything innovative from this, but I was expecting something engaging and enjoyable, and I didn't get that. And out on that point of innovation, my first reaction to this album is when they drop the trailer for it. We saw the artwork, you know, Code Orange or a big deal when even the sugar ripping them off right. That that album cover is. That's their first like three seconds of the swall like the rabbit hole video. That's the that's the Code Orange Mascot. Guys like what you doing. He's all on the knife and everything. So it does seem like they have run out of ideas at this point. Well, it can't get anywhorse, right, wow, we'll seem stay tuned. Now we're not. We're viewing North Lane this week. Where do you want to go next? will go monuments with in stasis. I think it makes sense to go to monuments because this is a sort of the the modern take on the M sugar chant sound. Now, you don't have much of a history of Mu Sugar. I am to understand that you you like monuments. I've seen monuments love with you. We've enjoyed them. We've talked about how much we like that last album. Yeah, yeah, like, I haven't been a fan since the beginning, but the the last album was called the one before. That was cool. So yeah, right, have have you gone back to the debut and I've heard it, but I haven't like I'm not familiar with it. I can listen to it enough. That's your favorite, right. That's my favorite monuments album and that's the when we saw them live that was I really I really like the last one as well. Now, playing all the new stuff and then right at the end of the set they dropped into all the stuff off the debut and it was like just a noticeable like gear shift up where I was like, Oh, yeah, those, those songs are the ones. Yeah, that's my favorite one of days and I think is my favorite gen album. These are these guys are my favorite gent band. It's bad, or the second periphree album, but probably monuments just because it's more efficient. The second periphree album, yes, the the second periphery album. Those at this time it's personal whatever. The Red One I thought. I thought Gent and they had great debuts. Josh, if you read my article, I will say that the the exception is periphery and...

...maybe test rp to you like like test her up to your guys. Right. Yeah, I'm a big test rex fan. At the time I wrote that Jen article. Money one time we had two albums and that the second one. I thought was okay, but it didn't do as much for me. Then I ended up really liking the third one and I like this one quite a bit. True, so I think it would be worth through visiting that article actually now where we're down the line, and being like, okay, did anyone like bring it back, because I think monuments are definitely an argument for that. Yeah, how you feel about this? This fourth monuments alm? It took me a long time to have an opinion on it, I feel. I feel like with every listen I was just like, I don't know if I like this yet and let me give give that another shot. And I've settled on I do like it. So is that better? Like that's above. It's fine as it broken through the fine barrier. It has broken through the fine barrier around. So there's there's some cool hooks, nice melodies. The music is excellent all the way through. That that part wasn't in question for me. But the the new vocalists, clean vocals, the the tone just is not my personal favorite. Like I think he sings well, it's just not the tone that I personally enjoy. So it took me a bit of time to sort of warm up to that I think is harsh. Vocals are great, and so, yeah, that's what's where I'm at at the moment. I find that very surprising to hear about the vocals because I agree sort of a hundred percent with everything you're saying about here. Because, yeah, the big change between this and the last album is they lost Chris Barretto, who is an all some front man, and I thought, yeah, the last album was a very melodic focused album, but he had rather a mix and mats Gent. Yeah, I was going to say we talked about was a varsity doing sort of the weekend. But yeah, of Cour or whatever you that last yeah, monument's album. There's a lot of yeah, Michael Jacksony sort of rb stuff going on there. Yeah, but then I think he still has a lot more power and stuff and in he's harsh vocal deliverym more than this guy whose name I don't know, I'm sorry. Is it Andy Sysik? Maybe I thought he was in another band, but but he's not, or he was, but it's not one that is that is noteworthy. Yeah, now, I had like when I saw it, that that's who it was. I was like, I could have sworn this guy was in some other like Metal Corey emo e type band. Well, that is because they've traded out one of the most distinct and electrified front men for, you know, Stock Jed vocalist. Yes, whatever, I think I know who I've gotten mixed up with. Is it anyone who's ever Sung for tests or act? No, it is whoever came in to asking Alexandria Oh to replace and I must have a mixed I don't know who that is. I think this guy does a really good job and he's fine. So I, you know, being a little over dramatic and I feel like I've been a bit harsh on him and then my last few cops. But I'm surprised to you that his vocals aren't really jelling with you, because to me he sounds like everyone who's ever Sung for test or act. See, I get that. I get the lot. I get the saying like every time I criticize Sam like stuck standard pop voice, they like, but you like test. He acting like to test reactor. Is The vcalist. There are so much better than these generic guys. So I stand by that opinion. Okay, yeah, I think, I think this is good. I yeah, it's probably it's probably still like my third favorite poniment's album is probably still prefer the last one. Yeah, same. Like, I think this is actually a really good blend of the the heaviness and technicality of that debut are with the melody they brought it on last time. Like it really is a blend of when the first song comes out, it was like a complete throwback to the debut and I was like, Oh, real, we go they did. They do a lot more melodic stuff, especially in the middle of the Olm, which is I do find his melodies aren't as compelling as Bretto's. HMM. And for me I think like the first few tracks are amazing and the last few tracks are amazing. Like it's yeah, start strong and strong. I think the last track is quite an accomplishment's the big long program it was the closer. I think that really got me on board, like simultaneously catchy and epic and or really second whole second half to that track. I think it's a fantastic way to close the out. Yeah, this is the eight minute long Samirian we are talking about. Yeah, and I think it is like good the whole way through, but I do find the stuff in the middle is less remarkable, I guess. HMM, although I'll am also sort of biased in that opinion, given that Spencers, a teller of periphery guests on one of the middle tracks and he is the pin up vocalist for the tone. I really don't like right. Yeah. No, there's a lot of people who don't like his vocals like that. That's I think. I really like his vocals and have always really liked his vocals, like when he joined prophrey and people were complaining, I was like, what are you? What are you talking about? This guy's a great vocalist. But I actually I don't think this is a good guest spot. I think he comes in and really sort of not quite derails the track, but it does then become like the spencers a teller is because a yeah, and the song is not written to suit him. Yeah, so as much as he comes in immediately and I'm like this is a way more distinct and idiosyncratic vocal then the guy who's doing the rest of it, but it doesn't serve the song. So yeah, I think that guest spot isn't good. I think he could have done a good guest spot, but it's not one. Yeah, this is cool. I don't think this is going to make my Indo year list like I think I had. We keep calling it the last...

...album for a nieces, for a nieces. I think it might have even made my top ten, like I think it was quite high in my list that year and I listened to it a lot. This one, I don't think it's going to make my indie list. I haven't been finding myself compelled to go back to it as much, but I still really enjoyed it and reminded me, just like how good monuments are generally, that they're my favorite gent that. Yeah, cool, yeah, for me it's probably going to be on the cusp of lists or honorable mentions. Yeah, all right, let's let's switch gears. Let's do it's just time. It's everybody time, because we talked about Garish on the it was that the first episode, the second episode, we talked about Garish. He's not can come on, I think garish in the chronicles and I said that album was as good as some of the classic s ones that we we're talking here, metal down guys, that he's an up on the program he's you know, he's coming out. Oh, this is a strong new album. Keep your eye this guy. We're here to talk about crash diet and their album automaton and crushed diet there, there, you big guys. Hence why they're in the headliners. So I'm going to go off here and then we'll get Carlos take to give some context on the Swedish hair metal revival of the early two thousand S, which is something I don't know how familiar color analysis be, but essentially in the early two thousand for about two thousand and five to to fifteen, there was there was a Swedishir metal revival. Lots of big bands coming out doing that. That s sound and crushed ie were the big ones of them sort of leading the charge of men. You could talk about hardcore superstar that. They sort of existed earlier and then dip in and then they now sort of moved off in a different direction. But you had bands like crushed back, crazy licks heat. They're the big ones, and then just a ton of other bands. That was just a hair metal revival going on in Sweden. Yeah, crushed diet were I don't know how big they are, but I think they're sizeable in Sweden and we're sort of the big pin up guys of this scene. There are some Ol head as well. Yeah, they were the best by a mile. They're my favorites. They're the monuments of sweedishare metal having rent free in Josh's mind? Yep, yeah, they're good. I now I wrote a whole halflife thing when they put out their last Alibu. So if you want the indepth crash diright history breakdown and you can go and read that on the blog. But they've had quite a story history. So to give you the brief rundown, they come out with the debut rest in sleeves from two thousand and five. This is an all time classic. This was, I think, when I went back through and did all my old with the year list, this was my over the year for two thousand and five absolute all timer. And I do want to stress that the sleeves, when it comes to straight crashed because they sort of identify as like we're sleeves metal as sleezer. It's not like Grubby exy sleeves. This is like dirty, great punk sleeves. There's a real sort of streets. They sing about anarchy and rebellion rather than pin up girls and strippers. That's that's crazy. Licks drop right. Sorry, that's where they're coming from. The sort of got this street image there. Sing our Dave Leopard. Is that his actual name or Isably not a flippers? Yeah, because I saw that. I saw that. It was like this can't be real. Well, I always getting mixed up with the villain of the Darren Shawn Young Adult Vampire novel series, is Steve Leopard. Know, they had a singer, Dave Leopard, who killed himself. He died by suicide, I think, fairly shortly after this album was released. But they they came back pretty soon after that with their second on the unattractive revolution from two thousand and seven, so only two years after the debut. Yes, okay, so you are. You are laughing at Dave leftard. His replacements name was h Oliver Twisted, who was a very different vocalist, much of sort of higher, shriller vocal. This is not a great album. The unattractive revolution has some good songs on it, like like falling reins, a great one, but yeah, not as strong, not as good. A bit of a different sort of image for the band. Do the other thing about crushed. I mentioned the slee thing being like. They're gritty, they're punk, the ANIKI. They're also the drummer where's Morbid Angel Shirts and has a big drum and then does double Kigge. He wants to be in a death metal band and you you hear that come through. There are much more metal band than their contemporaries, whereas I think h Oliver twisted. If you watch the videos from that era, they come out and they foot up on the monitor and they're throwing down. There's Morbid Angel Logos everywhere and then he comes out and read jumps so does like scissor kicks. So yes, they went for on someone who was a good version of Vince Neil to someone who wanted to be a bad version of David Lee Roth. Quite a jarring change there. He left after that album. More I don't think he really got along with the band, is what I've read into it, and went and formed the band reckless love. We've got them later on, don't we? We do. Yes, we can maybe do them now actually, because reckless lover an awful band. This is all of that like s nostalgia throwback. They're doing the NEON lights. They wanted to be journey hmm. Nobody except color. They put out a new album this year which is called Turbo Rider. Yep, and they've gone so rather than sounding like journey, this album, as its name suggest sounds like turbo were a Judas priest. They've gone like full s Judas priest fell. Yeah, you listen to it in yeah, what did you think of Turbo ride? Up? I did. So my my opening note is the first track sounds like what if Jud this priest was a sin flave band, the right. So the overall, I thought it was just okay. There are some cool moments. It gets a bit pop here. As you go, I will concede the there are some, to use your phrase, to the yeah,...

...right to the sky riffs, like back at the moon in particular. They cover a buck at the very year. But as a package didn't didn't do a huge amount for me. Yeah, but just the fact that you got any and German out of that, because I'm telling you, all the album are reckless love. Albums before this one are abysmal. So the fact that this is not only hey, they've released a good, almost a pretty good album that sounds like Judas priest that Carlo likes. Yeah, worth checking out. If that sounds like something you're into, is that's a little early. Support Review there. Yeah, he left the band. They got a new guy in vocals. Round three. Yeah, this is their their fourth vocalist, Simon Cruz, who had a big Mohawk like a he looked like the cover of the exploited albums and had the I think he had the crush Diet logo tattooed on one side of his head and their Aniki logo tattooed on the other side of the of his head. They release generation wild in two thousand and ten, which is another all time classic, amazing, great album. I think I gave a track off it two got in a playlist swap and you know, he didn't hate it. So you know, I'm gradually converting the every blocked stuff. Now this is the album. If I was like, Hey, do you want to get into Swedish leaves rock? Generation Wild from two thousand and ten, it's it's a more metal leaning album, great arm. So they got like a two all timers under their bat and this is when I come in and discover the band. I'm like, these guys are the best. They release a follow up to that two thousand and thirteen the savage playground, which I pre ordered from Sweden because they weren't like a big international deal at that point. The album comes out. It's a dut it's a complete massive disappointment. It's got like one good song on it, bit of a bummer. They sort of just disappear after that and they're touring. I did see them live at the ESPN s and killed a good night, but they just sort of they disappear for a while. They're not really doing anything. All the other bands that they were sort of head and shoulders above start overtaking them in terms of reputation, quality and output all of that. It comes out that Simon Cruz leaves the band halfway through a tour for like no reason at it seemed like with him they'd really found their guy and he was sort of like iconic as well with the big here he's gone. So run to around four. We're onto round four. They sort of come out back out of nowhere twenty nineteen with rust and they have a new vocalist, Peter London, who I don't think he was in any other band of note. Yeah, so this is when I wrote up the the half life forum rust was an OK album, better than there the last one in the unattractive revolution, but a bit all over the place, like sort of feeling out different directions. And in terms of even Hili the twisted, who wasn't a great vocalism in really suit the band, had this really distinct sort of style to him that he's gone off and made very successfully, because the thing about reckless love, reckless lover, like pretty big, which is crazy. But this new guy, Peter London, was good but was just sort of stock s hair metal vocalists. Not a whole lot of personality coming through on rust. which brings us to Automaton. Don't mind the half life, guys, you've just heard it here live. Okay, yeah, sorry, let's love, crush die. All right. forringist to Automaton, I think there has been a huge step up in his performance on this album. I think he still doesn't have as much character as the other, the other vocalist, but I think his performance here is way better and way more distinctive than it was on the presone. So he's really come into his own and feels more comfortable here. Also, the music itself to me feels more focused. This is a much heavier and much more metal. There's a little some like electronic bits here and there, but whereas the last album was sort of lashing out and all these different directions, this seems like they're just gone straight down the line. Here's some heavy hair metal songs. I think a Tomaton is fucking great. I think it is a huge return to form. I don't think it's as good as rest and sleeves or generation of mode or maybe even that Garish Holm from early earlier this year, but it is right below that. I have been absolutely caning this album since we got the Promo for it. Yeah, I love this. Is this doing anything for you color? Well, I mean you said it's below the Garish one. The garish one did nothing for me really, and I've no idea who these guys are and, as you know, am another hair mettal guy. But this is breaken through the fine darious. I didn't. I mean it just hits you right out of the gate with a big one to punch, and Damn if you don't want to play this loud as fuck whilst driving around in the car. Like the the ballads are boring, so they don't do much for me, but the rest of it is pretty good and, yeah, I want to listen to it more color. You've made me so happy. Yeah, I mean, if you like this, listen to generation while. Yeah, I think that is a good comparison because, yeah, this is a far more metal album than they last few and what their contemporaries have been doing. Like, some of the songs have just straight up like metallica style thrash breaks in the middle of them. I think it's either dead crusade or darker mind something has like a big four horseman stump in the middle of it. That the ballads. There's there's only one real ballad, isn't there? The last one. I can't move on. That's the other ballad track. I feel like three it maybe like four or five tracks in they like it's not a ballad ballad, but it's moving, the softest stuff moving in that direction. Yeah, because I can't move on. Is a ballad ballad and it is my my one ticking and see, I'm not because I think it's a bad song.

People who are listening to you last once podcast will now. I've been through a massive fucking broke out recently. I can't take this. This has great and it finishes with this uplifting there's that we die hard and we will be unbloken. There's all this message of resilience and then there's a song at the end where he said because he misses his girlfriend and she if she just come back, he'd be all right. I have listened to that song once. was like, Nope, we are ending the album early. I cannot take that. I'm sorry, happy you like this. It actually accomplished. Yeah, it. Check it out if you're interested in checking this out, I mean together whatever. The openers are great song, but I think shine on is the real standout. Tracked Terry, that they haven't really sed as a single, and I have no idea why, because to me that is just dumb, isn't it? That is immediately an old timer. Yeah, sorry, check this out and, if you like it, go back and listen to generation wild and rest in sleeves. It was all worth it. We can cancel the podcast now, because last he metal. All right, let's go to as I'm Stein with zight Rum Stein. So this might be another sort of conversion job, because I was a big Ramstein fan for a long time, but they were more they were a bit of a gateway band for me, a very formative band that sort of led me into more extreme metal and were a staple when I was discovering things myself. So I have been a long time Ramstein Fan. Actually, I'm going to tell my how I got into Ramstein Story. Okay, let's yeah, I I. Well, I also heard do cost because it was on it was on the Matrix Soundtrack and I was at a House party when I was in grade five, so I was like eleven years old, and there was just there was a group of guys sitting on a trampoline. They had like a boom box and the matrix soundtrack and they just put do host on repeat and then would not let anyone change the song for the entire night. So that was that was actually my first exposure to Ramstein, which I'm just saying with think varying German accents because it's fun. But no, my actual, like first conscious encounter with the Ramstein is the first movie I ever went and saw on my own, like without parental accompaniment. I went and saw the what year is it? Hang on, I'm going to say two thousand and three, based on how old I was. All I was a year off the two thousand and two vin diesel classic x right, another very formative piece of video for me. I've see I was going to say two thousand and thirteen because I thought I was thirteen at the time. If it's two thousand and two, I would have been twelve. I was googling to find out what year it was and I'm typing in x film winter. Google I'm like no, I can't do that. Have you seen the diesels x color? No, right, this movie opens with a Ramstein Concert. There is an underground like I think they had their Russian gangster club that everyone's gets into and the band on stage have Mohawks and they're dripping. They've got all this stuff all over him. And then halfway through the song they put on gas masks, which creeped me the fuck out because I was there twelve. I'm in the theater by myself and and watching these guys in this gangster club put on these mass I'm like I've made a huge mistake. I need an adult. was like genuinely panicking it. And then they shoot fire thing and then the guy climbs up on stage. There's like a James Bonderd going through the thing and he gets up on stage because he's trying to get the single and they shoot him and he dies and they crowd surf the body around. Yeah, it was. And then I after that scene, our relaxed in the movie ruled and I watched it like thirty times after that because I've got it on DVD. But that was my first exposure to rum Steiner. Then later on. Well, they've never do house guys, but my passion for them has sort of waned in the last few years in that there was the ten year gap between albums and then they came back and I I wasn't hugely on board with the last album. But you haven't really paid that much attention to them, I gather. That's right. Yeah, I know the host and I listened to the last album and fall when it came out, and I thought that one was fine. I could pretty good. You've done them a sugar thing because again, that's I think that one has its fans, but for me was a real step down from there. They're earlier material. It's a the first for that. Murda is the one that's the classic. If you got to get in store and rams and listing what it's great and then the lever is foul and that was the last one before the break, which was they went in more of like a big stadium rock sort of director with that, just like big songs. Right, I think that album is really underrated. I think I think it's really good. So that one and then the first three I think you call ramstone releases, and the rest I'm sort of like if he about so yeah, but Ramstein are going into this album. It's so yeah, they had ten, ten years before the last one, which got sort of a mixed response, and then immediately they're just I guess with the pandemic they couldn't tour. It's like well, but Bam, another album. We have Zi, which is again it's sort of in line with the last album, but a pretty big departure from the the classic Ramstein sound like that. That's stomping industrial thing that they are known for. You do husts and whatnot. I don't think it's soft all the time, but softer in aggregate and more varied album than what they're known for. So much like with my sugar is immutable. I don't think this is particularly representative of their back catalog. But as the new listener who doesn't have all the baggage of x and stuff.

How you feel about Ze? I thought it was pretty boring. Right, like, there were there were moments that were good. Angst stands out as a pretty, really cool song, Yep. But there it's sort of filters, sorry, flippers, between either being fairly sort of straight ahead ripping and like it sounds. It sounds all right, but doesn't do it enough. There's not enough variation to the softer and more experimental and more variable side of the sound. But and whilst I appreciate the variety this, the qualities not as compelling to me when they venture into that, that territory. And so, yeah, it comes out just being fine at best, although I do, I do think this would be cool to see live and but it's not grabbing me. On record. Yeah, no, I saw Ramstein live when they because that I don't know if it's the army time my play in Australia, but the last time I played in Australia was they had blind to walk day with the second builders them until with the headliners of the big day out festival. So that was that was a good lime with them, both of them. Back to about it, yeah, and they were Maman. They had the big penis that shoots the farm and the fire and the dead babies hanging from the roof and the guy who comes out and low my fire and they welled him like it was crazy. And then my my friend who from high school, who does not listen to death metal, and sort of our ongoing relationship was I thought she should listen more death metal and and she thought should shut the fuck up about death metal and listen to lady Gaga, and in retrospect she was right. But I was gonna say I feel like she made more progress and that fight than you. Yeah, well, I had a big crush on her, so you know. But no, but she was there that day and then like came up to me was like, Oh my God, that's the Radis Shoe I've ever seen. The next time they come we have to go and all of this. So yeah, definitely, just the spectacle of it goes away. Having said that, then till came on and and just blew him off the stage by virtue of being tool. So it's not. It's not all spectacle, though, I also realized in retrospect. So Ramstein is battering Ram it's and they're named after an airfield where there was the crash, but they're also Ramstein and they sing about penises. So you have the battery Ram and then they were followed by tools. So I realized on that I saw two bands essentially called Penis and on this beast best. Back to the arm itself. Yeah, I'm ste you definitely right to point out angst by far the best track on the album, I think, and the one that has most in line with their older trademark sound. But I don't think it's good just because it's comfort I think it's good because it's just a perfectly crafted song. Well, actually, I don't think it's the best on them. I think it's the second best, so because I think the best song is Lugan, but we'll get to that. But I think when we were talking about whether last time, at the end of last episode, whether you're interested in covering this, you said yeah because, like the industrial trend that's going around at the moment, you've been liking industrial stuff. This would be interesting. This is not a particularly industrial album and I think you definitely see like the industrial that's influencing things in hardcore metal the moment is not Ramstein style industrial that is God flesh is the root of that. God Flesh, and maybe ministry, but Ramstein is much more ninees ravy. It's a lighter sound and I think you you heard that coming through on the last album of the self title, the untitled, when they did go into those techto parts, it just felt a bit dated and flimsy. I think the electronics work better here, but it does sort of sound behind the time. Still to relate it tom sugar again like coloss. When coloss came out, the narrative around that is like, well, how are they going to there's all these jet bands now, like how are they going to stack up? And then I think they dropped coloss and just absolutely annihilated everyone right and even now, like yeah, the mture grounds not great, but they're just heavier and Nastier than all these jet bands. Like there's a real difference in just level. Whereas you you hear this compared to something like the code are Angelbum, it's like, okay, you guys are not you're a legacy act at this point, which they're not pretending not to be. Rats God Xience all about time. But I think they are doing some more interesting stuff here because, yeah, my favorite song is Lugan, which is the one with the water tune. Did this stand out to you at all? Color Not really right. It's just like the ten minute long instrumental where it's a real glaring deviation that just passed you by, or just you notice that? I didn't stand out like I do remember it, because it was sort of a lot one that really mellow and soft to begin with. So I like the idea more than the execution, I think. Right, all right. For me, I think the execution of this is perfect. We're just sort of as he gets more intense and more angry, it gets like more electronic and inhuman. The standout track off the last album, which dependent seems to be a general consensus to people who like it and even the people who weren't that big on the last album, like me, is he's papa from the last album was the clear standout, which was sort of this year dark buildup song about I think it's about a girl listening to assistant get my listed in the room next door. So you know, Ramstein do stuff like that, whereas, yeah, Lugan here sounds to me like a continuation of that, and that's where I think this album is exciting, because there's sort of are we're going to do soft songs for no reason, whereas something like Lugan, I think, brings that in but keeps the Ramstein element to it and also brings in those electronic stuff and does something with them. So I wish there was...

...a bit more in that. I mean for me in general. Again, like with sugar, I think the second half of this album is way stronger and more engaging than the first, especially they start off with with three soft songs that a row, which I don't think that's a great decision. But weirdly, the thing with the last album is you had a really strong first half of the album and then it tailed off. Here you have like a sort of slow leading I think once it hits like okay, and even Zick Zach, which I hated as a single, but here, in the context of the album, at kicksie and I'm sort of like, oh, Rumstein, okay, here I think the of the second half works. So what I've done so I'm at a playlist where I got the first half of the last album, I got the second half of this album and then I get the last song. Idea which is this big goodbye song. I think this last song has to be the open off. I know they're saying goodbye, but they are. This albums also about time and they had a video clip where they everything was moving backwards and they put the babies back inside the room right. So I think it plays into the themes if you get goodbye and put it at the start. But yeah, I think idear is there is another standout that I think works really well as and open u. So I've been getting that put at the front. They at the first half of the last album, last half of this album and color you're a real good album. All right. You know, I don't expect them to hold off on releasing these albums, but I will wait till we write the better second half next time. But birth, these albums are, I think, in on even of themselves, but in aggregate, yeah, there's quite quite some quality material here. Before we move on to the special guests, how do you feel about Dick here titting, I can't remember. Oh God, Damn, my hello, you're if you're gonna, if you're banking on me remembering individual tracks, then you're asking for triple. The song called Dick titties didn't stand out to you, because I got the element. I looked at it, I saw the track listed. I would it doesn't mean Dick titties it this is big titties. Right. That's German, but they're also Ramstein. They know what it looks like. This is this is their equivalent of Pussy. You you know the Song Pussy. That's their other big song. That's not too host okay, off leavers for Aland Ah. That was the last album before the break. So two thousand and nine. The lead single from that are as song called Pussy, which was sung in English. They they filmed a video clip for it. That was I think it debuted on Pornhub or something. It was essentially it was a pawn and the chorus, I'm going to sing the chorus to Pussy now goes. You have a pussy, I have a Dick, so what the problem? Let's do it quick. That is the chorus. This song was huge and that is the song they end all there are concerts with while till rides a giant penis cannon that shoots form all over the audience. Sounds like a lot of fun. It was a good time. This is the equivalent of that and I think it's really cool. I think it works. It's got the Mariachi beat at the front. I don't know, the first time I listen to this album I was a bit I had your sort of reaction on my heart. It's a bit all over the place. It's a bit then I don't know what's doing. I have found myself far more compelled to come back to this than the last record and I found it growing on me with repeated listen so I'd call it a success, if not a standout from their discoverphy. But yeah, if you knew it im stime, like Carlo is, I would not start here. Go back check out what a all right, special guest time, special guest time. I realize I've been talking a lot and we have a more josh leaning line up this month and I stuff Carlo is is normally into, although every tech, that band that didn't release down last year's releasing an ELM in June. So we will get there June. It's Carlo time. Yeah. So, but the point they're being where do you want to start with special guests? I'll let you take the take the home here. Well, let's go with oshian Grove and in yea forever. Right, this is going to be a me talking a lot one, so I'll let you start. Yeah, so I really enjoyed this. Oh, okay, here we go. I thought it was Super Fun pop punk and I like skimmed a few reviews, which we're pretty damn scathing. Okay, so this is this is my first time listening to Ocean Grove and so, from what I could gather, they used to be heavy and now everyone's mad that they're puppy. But coming in with no expectations and just taking it forward, it is. I think it's really catchy, really lighthearted, easy listening, like red trip material. Okay, I am shocked. This is you like this and crash die. We're having a crazy week here for crazy month. I guess we do these monthly. I haven't I hadn't looked at any of the other reviews for this or I'm surprised to hear it's getting scathed because they're there. Are Band there and Australian band there. Their profile has been increasing noticeably over the last few years and I've seen a lot of promotion based around the release of this album and I've seen their name everywhere since sir, I sort of assumed it was getting, you know, a good response. I have to say I am one of the detractors. I do not like this album. I think it's a pretty big disappointment for a few reasons, and a lot of that has to do with the context of where their kate, where they came from. And it's not that they're less heavy. I think they've got less interesting right so to let's start. Rather than doing the crush R I think let's start and work backwards this. Did you listen to, or we're aware of, the turnstile album holiday that came out last year? Was it called holiday? What was it called? The with the pink color? Was it definitely last year? Yeah, blow on, it was called holiday. Was the EP came with it? Nope. Okay, so this was a you will have...

...heard the song is is. Maybe the song is holiday. You will have heard the song holiday if you turn on triple J ever. Right. So, turnstile, we're really exciting hardcore band. They released down time and space that is like half an hour long and does crazy hardcore with a lot of like different influences and stuff. It's really good. I liked it. And then the follow up, blow on, they released and it didn't really do anything for me. They dropped a lot of the hardcore stuff, and to me it's not just the pink cover. Glow on is the deaf heaven of hardcore in right that last have an album got rid of all the interesting extreme metal and just went into sort of land post punk, and glow on sort of did the same thing for me, whereas they were trying to be more interesting by moving away from hardcore and they lost that sort of call sound for me and it just came off a bit fluffy. Right, fair enough. That is all to say. This album up in there forever by Osh and Grove, to me feels like a huge response to glow on. It's them trying to do glow on right, and it's them trying to do glow on and that June rats album, which I can tell by the song of what sounds like June rats featuring June rats real settle. Yeah. So now we go back. Ocean Grove started off as a straight up new metal band. Okay, therefore, I don't know if there's their first album. I think of it as as an a, as an EP. They had an EP or mini album called black label. Sounds like one new metal, very cane hill, that that sort of style. Then they released what I'm calling their first proper debut album, the rhapsody tapes, which I have been butting you to listen to for years and in the lead up to this podcast, and you have failed me every single time. I think the last time I recommended this album to you was after the release of the last time burgo album, but we both are quite liked. I have no recollection of view recommending me the ocean grave ever before, but I think it's definitely happened. The raps he tapes is a really weird, eclectic experimental album that has a lot of electronic influences. So yeah, if you like this album, and now I'm even further recommending please listen to other rap city tapes. Sort of elevator pitch is comeback kid meets floaty deaf tones with like electronic pop stuff with it's throughout it. I don't think it's like amazing, like it's not the finished product, but there was a lot of potential there and I found myself going back to it like quite frequently. So it was really excited to hear the follow up to that, except in between that album and the next time they released, which was flip phone fantasy from two thousand and twenty, one of their members, running touch, is the name he goes by. Have you heard of running touch? No, so running touch was just the guitarist from Ocean Grove. But then running touch is his name. He does pop music now, fairy Philly, middle of the road, modern electronic sort of tree pop. So he went off to pursue that and then, from what I gather, has had quite a bit of success doing that bit. From what I've listened to was was quite dull. So they lost him and it seems like he was bringing a lot of that interesting experimentation angle to the band, because flip phone fantasy was more or less a straight ahead new metal album, but with more of an old rock influence. But really I didn't like it when it came out, but I've gone back to it a few times I think like it's an okay album for what it is, if just you know, just the point of me given my expectations, whereas now up in the air forever for me is sort of the the nail in the casket of these guys are moving in the direction I don't want to go in. There's still a bit of new metal it on this new album, although I think it's a very distinct brand of new metal, which is to say it is twenty eight days style new metal, that is to say that they're lazy and they like to get funky and let it flow and swing like a monkey. You haven't heard that song, I don't know who twenty eight days are really. Yeah, twenty eight days are sort of Australia's response to live biscuit, except rather than whatever limp biscuits sing about, they sing about getting drunk at the beach. So they have a couple of cool songs. Yeah, I don't know, up in the air forever. Just seems like they've they've moved in a direction I'm not interested in, and the bits that do interest me are those bits that sort of throwback to the Rapsi stape sound, which I think there's a bit more on this album than there was on the last one. But I think sex star gold is a great song. That's the the second track, which has a bit more of a bouncy electronic feel to it. That was the lead single to this, I think so. I heard that was really excited that this was going to be a return, and then that is sort of an outlier on the album. The other one that stands out to me on this is hm you, Yep. That's the it has a feature on it, but that's like sort of the weird electronic rb intro track that they just dropped in the middle of the YEP, which in them sugar thing, sounds like a bit of a jam they did and didn't really flesh out, but I wish they had. I wish they had taken that round with it, because the rest of it to me, just sounds like boring Alt rock. And there's there's like they've got a shoe wine to go along with this, a shoe that's on the cover. Apparently they make can Sol loo shoes. Really look if you like this album, do not read any of the marketing, all the press releases around it, because it's a lot cringe. Yeah, no, I'm shocked to he like this. I thought this was so far out of your wheelhouse and I was going to have to apologize for making you listen to it because it didn't sound like the thing that I thought you would like that I wanted us to listen to yeah, that's pretty good. All right. Well, yeah, that was up in the air forever by Ocean Grove. Where are we got next? Color, Audrey Horn and devil's Bell? All right, I am going to take the lead on this one because be my guest, be my special guest even well, well,...

...you are aware of already horn before, before this album. NOPE, ordery Horn band from like a super group made up of members of enslaved and go go off. I think the go growth guys left it. It's the lead guitarist from enslaved and like other people from Scandinavian extreme metal bands, getting together to play heavy metal, all rock and roll. Yep, I think it's their second or third album, but their self titled Album From Two Thousand and ten, which I think is a double album. It's kind of proggy. That atom is really cool. I like it a lot. So that's that's where I got into the band. Then they went in a bit more of a hard rock direction, very thin lizzy influenced, over the next few alms and then they release the AL before this one, black out in two thousand and eighteen, which I did review for heavy blog. I really like that album. I think that's where they found their sound and really locked into like stadium heavy metal style stuff. That is an album that I thought was pretty good at the time it came out and just have found myself going back to it so regularly, like when I just want something kind of cool, kind of rock and to listen to, like that's the album I go to a lot. This is the follow up to that level. Spell. Now color you like I'm made in quite a bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so you must fucking love this right. Well, I had to break it to you, Josh, but this one is struggling to get through the fine barrier for me. But it fucking rocks. It sounds I made. There's a lot of line made an influence on it. Yes, now, in saying that, like iron maiden is the exception to the rule for me right in that I'm not really a big tread heavy metal guy, but I just really like them. And here this, of all the albums, this is probably the one I listened to the most. Oh Wow, because it took me that long to figure out whether I liked it or not. Although you guys have to like wrap my head around. I'm like no, what are you doing? Color like this is this is this is now me listen to you go. I'm into this or not, like it's very explicit in what it's doing. Yeah, and so I will preface my my saying that it's struggling to get through the fine barrier by saying that I do think that this is a good album for the genre it's in, and I think there are some really strong moments on here. The melodies are catchy, the tones are fun and nostalgic, and I think it's more a reflection of my personal taste rather than the quality of the music on show. Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, I probably would have stuck this in the supports rather than a special guests if, a, it wasn't that good. Like, I think this is a very good album, hmm. But also that, like you, you're saying, I had made the exception to the rule. But this is not a heavy metal influence on. This is an iron maide an influence, Gell and like. Yeah, and, and this shit's all over, like the last three or four I had made albums, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that last one race to be that was horrendous. A raised for I can't believe they released that. The lead tone makes me want to kill myself. Yes, yes, where's you listen to this? The opening of ashes to ashes, the first song, there's this like how much so ashes, it is a banger. Yeah, and it's still it starts off sounding like that. That's the death tone. That's sound of perseverance, death, yes, scale and tired, and then it goes into iron maiden rocking. I do think this is a this album is a little bit like one note. So, yeah, if you're not digging that one note all the way through, you're not going to like it. Whereas black out, the last one that I really like, was a lot more varied, whereas this seems like they're doubling down on that heavy metal sound and it's a much darker album as well. I mean as well sounding like that, like it's we got dance, macab and devil's Bell, like they're getting into death and shit. Yeah, I do think. I do think this picks up around that's my cab and devil's Bell and always lost. I think the second half of this album is is pretty strong, although I do see if you sort of over that sound by the time you get there, then it doesn't really matter. But yeah, I think this is another solid release. From Audrey Horne, who I just think they're really underrated. They've been so good for so long and I was hoping this might be a bit of a breakthrough for them, given some of the momentum, but you're not feeling it. So yeah, that that's that's Audrey Horn. I recommend it. Color maybe doesn't. I think it's definitely worth a listen and I think it's definitely a worth listen if you are a fan of summer lance, which was the point I made in the slack the other day. They do do some lands. Never heard of them? Okay, so some lands are a like a they sound like this, which is the point I'm making, but like a throwback heavy metal band. They lead guitarist is Arthur risk, who is producing all the good things of the moment. He did the last soul, flying catalericanspiracy albums and he did some curd stuff with code orangees like a big name producer at the moment all the fresh bands that sound like power trip and maybe even power trip. So yeah, they his band and they put out some lands. Yeah, self titled Ol Mean Two Thousand and sixteen, which I discovered a few years ago and was like, Oh my God, this is amazing, and then came running into the blogs like guys, guys, have you heard this? And then everyone in the blog was like yeah, man, like, I think it is a bit of a cult release album heavy blog of just like this is solid lands. And then they finally put out they put out like a two track single like last week or something. It's like the only other new music they've made. So people were talking about that on the slack and I was like, guys, because if you like this, listen Aundrey Horn. And then Eden was like that, I'm not really that into it. So maybe it's just me that. Yeah, I think...

...it's some rocks. All right, we're too. Next color. Next we have crown compass, with the draft Crown Compass, who are a new band. This is their debut. They are made up of, let me get the line up here, former members of textures, exhibists and cynic fame. Yeah, although I think it's one of those deals where like one guy was in three of those bands. There's a few from textures and then I think there are a couple that were in exhibious together, one of which was also in scenic. Briefly, Robins your horse, I'm pretty sure. I'm base. He was in cynic right. So I thought it was only the vocalist who was from textures, but it's the guitar burglost and guitars from textures and then bass and drums from Exhibius and cynic game. I think one of the guys played a pest once as well. So you know, pretty good pedigree there. Yeah, this could be a new textures album. Hey, you were you ever into textures and I got into their last album or their last couple. Do they do like a double album? I think they were meant to do a double album and then they never released the second part and never got to the other one. Right, right, yeah, so, yeah, I thought phenotype was my introduction to them and I've never gone back. But I thought phenotype was cool. I have a similar story and that I knew who they were and I listened to them but I wasn't really into him. And finotype came out and I loved it and yeah, that was sold of my gateway into them. I've since come back. I don't love the one before dualism. That seems to get all the attention about some of their earliest stuff, like silhouettes in particular. I think it's really cool. But yes, phenotype was the one for me and I'm disappointed that we never got the follow up to that. I think genotype was meant to be the other one. Well then, I think we could call this album genotype because it sounds like textures. So with some notable differences that will get to. But before we get into that color unlike order of Horn and ocean grave that I was expecting you maybe not to be on board with, I thought this might be right on your alley. What's how you feeling about the drought? I was similarly optimistic. Uh Huh, and it has broken through the fine barrier. Do you like it? But I'm not sure I like it in to land on my list right. So yeah, it is similar, most similar to textures. When you when looking at the the other bands, at the members have been involved with, I think it's sort of sits pretty comfortably under a general sort of prog umbrella. And but there's a good dose of thresh thrown in and a good dose of Alice in chains style Alt metal. For me, a lot of the sort of choir the parts really reminded me a lot of a I see, which is a great thing in my book, because I love Them. So, yeah, that's that's me. What about you? Yeah, I really like this. This immediately broke through my fine barrier, though maybe I have a a thin off fine barrier and something. The thrash thing definitely sit out to me. We'll come back to that. I'm now. Let's do the threshing now. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, this sounds like textures, and I think is is prog metal, like in the proggiest prog metal, for like it's doing doesn't really sit in there in a subgenre so much, kind of like more streamline between the buried a main parts. But really I did not get that at all. They're not as wacky but just sort of like it's not mathcore, but it's doing a lot of sort of you know, Frit Wall gymnastics rather than, Yep, spacey prog tones. It's fast, I guess. Is what I'm saying, which should brings us to the the first class, which probably also got me on board. There's and they openly acknowledge like yes, this is a thrashingflouenstyle, but it's not just me. I'll look, there was a riff. Therefore it's thrash. I think it is a very particular kind of thrash metal because the thrash metal on this reminds me so specifically of that debut. Me Sure, I'm we were talking about earlier. All right, well, it is very much like sort of technic thresh yeah, and he's s style. Yeah on that. The first heavier song here is sidious, the thrash breaking. That sounds like the opening track off our CONCENTRAT ECRITIANS collapse. That's an album that I really like that I think is often overlooked and underrated, so I am like sort of glad to see it coming through here and being extrapolated on. I was surprised to hear the allison chains comparison because I did not get that comparison at all. And when I think of the softer parts, they're very sort of soft and floaty, whereas I think of Alice in chains is like dark and sludgy. Oh, not so much sludgy, but I got duck because I think my one complaint about this album, but well, I have to one, is that it's too long, but that feed you to my second complaint, which is there's too much soft stuff on it. Having starting off this album with a for minute long acoustic track. I think is a huge mistake because there are so many people who are going to turn the album off before they even hear like what it sounds like. M but also, yeah, it's four minutes is way too long for a soft acoustic intro that then gets reprised twice throughout the record, like it should have been like a minute and a half intro and then into the guts of it. I didn't have an issue with the intro right being as long as it was. I do think the record as a whole was too long. I agree with you there and I agree that they if they want to grab attention and Acoustic intro and your debut is not the way to do it. I really is the four minutes for me because it like it becomes its own song, but then it's not like representative of the album. And Yeah, it comes back there there's an acoustic reprise as seashells on the sand and then there is a three minute reprise of the intro tract to in the album. So if...

...it is going to be this theme, I didn't think it needed to be its own thing. And because of those reprises, like yeah, we get through to, yeah, track six. I don't know how long it's been by that, but we've had like three or four, five, six, seven minute long like dance, prog metal songs, HMM, and at that point I almost feel like all the album's over and then the acoustic intro like starts again and then you get here two nine minute songs. It's like this is almost like two albums. You know, it's so I think there could have been a bit of streamlining there, but our yeah, this is really cool. I if it makes my end of year list, who will probably be lower down, but I'm really excited by yeah, them a sugar influence on this and yeah, I think it's cool. Yeah, I like the idea of it and I look forward to where they go next. Yeah, because, yeah, I was really disappointed that I finally got into textures and I think they released their best album and then they just immediately broke up. Yeah, okay, all right, said we do on the spirit. Next, clarity and Galactic strectures. Yeah, this came out last week, I think, and the elevator pitch on this, which I don't know if there's much more to say, but we will find out soon. Is this sounds like, if after the sound of perseverance, death when the least a black metal album, and I think it's pretty fucking cool. Yeah, agreed, and on two king gives it in the list. Yeah, look, I didn't think this is going to land on my list, but it's solid. It's definitely worth a few listens. The main riff on repression hits super fucking hard and I love that song. But the yeah, not nothing groundbreaking. I'm just listening to repression now. Is that the one that's literally Crystal Mountain has let merry listening as well. Now, hang on, I'm going to find it now. So the next song. So let's still fire. Or was it? I don't know, I can't find it, but there is ones, some one here whether the main riff is is just crystal mountain like right. So we're not being facetious when we say this. It sounds like they're. This might be one where I said it's thrash metal, because there's riffs, but there is a real like sort of yeah, urgency, like speed to this that I don't think death have. Or is death get more lost in the technical, sort of Chunky groove? This sort of hits a riff and just like takes off sort of in the same way that convey an album did a bit. But the black metal it reminds me of, and I'm bringing them up because I brought I think I brought them up into relation to Kada and as well as that that Nagle fire album I was telling you about there the other week, right. I just I didn't realize like how distinct that ILM was, how much it buried itself in my head. But there is a specific tone or something that seems to be floating around on the room that that, for me, is just so tied to that Nagle fire record, which is called harvest from two thousand and seven. Four people listening. So, yeah, this sounds like that mashed off with yeah, like symbolic Arrow death. I think this is great. I think this might wind up ending up somewhere on my my a ear list because it is sort of that one note thing, like we don't have much to say about it because it sounds like they're doing black battle. But I think this is done so well. Yes, agreed to check it out there. It's a lot of bands doing that dead thing, but like like if this was the next fath album like it would be perfectly in line with everything else they've done. So and I actually think there is. There is more variation in the songwriting on their stand on death albums. I think I we made. I made the joke or a reference somewhere that like I went and learned a bunch of death songs on guitar and Bass for a while and they literally all follow the same pat and you have like cool intro riff, then we get a you go verse Riff, a chorus, riff, first riff, Chorus, rift, stop, base break based on some weird pattern, and then they're coming with Solos and then you get a return. They just repeat and that is since human. That is the the and it works because death of the best, whereas here there's a lot more, I guess, complex or varied, varied song structures going on. So yeah, if you like death, check this out. All right. So now we moved to the best band name of all time and can get it and Lizar visit the Um gatherum. No, it's the best band name of all time, though I do think the title of their their thrash album, the infest the rats nest. I really like that. So they're definitely doing something with the word yeah, can gives it and the Lizard Wizard. We're both from Melbourne, so by default we have to like these guys. Apparently, I never really did. Neither. Yeah, they're doing psychedelic garage rock, not really my thing until they did the thrash my album, infest the rats nest, which I thought was really good. I like you need to say that with the rats pronunciation from ghost us. So yes, rats. Yeah, so I went check all they're doing. They're doing a thrash my element be it was real good. And then since releasing that they've released like nineteen other albums, but two of those were they did like a double or companion on which was kg and lw Sadad can give it and Lizard Wizard, that we're a bit more had like a sludgy black sabbath sort of Starna doom vibe to them. Not Everywhere, but a bit heavier, bit darker, and I thought they were interesting at call but didn't grab me as much. And then this one comes out. It's called on me and gather. It's got a cover that looks like it's to be gored album or something. So I thought I'm going to check this out and I listen to the singles and I thought they were pretty cool. I think this album is pretty cool, has some major drawbacks, I'm overall digging it. That's my little teaser. Will get into what I think about it a collar. Have I destroyed your soul with this and do you never want to talk to me again? And then the PODCAST is canceled. The part is not canceled, but I continue to not understand this band. So there's there's...

...a lot of variety on display, as is to be expected at this point from King Giz. So we've got I mean like guy are and Predator x are almost like death thresh songs really, and then we've got some hip hop at times, like say, these sorcerers or Sadis sorcerous, weird flutes on grim reaper and the whole bunch of other wacky stuff. And so to me I like the idea of this band and I even do think that the songwriting is pretty good, but the tones they use and just the esthetic and vibe they go for just doesn't do anything for me. And they epitomize a jack of all trades but a master of none of all feeling the solid at every genre they try their hand at, but they will never be my Goto for any of those genres. The cough that King Gizzard. You just got heard by Colo Heavy blog review US slams king gizzard. Yeah, it's very like talking to the ECLECTICISM. I think this is the most sort of like they do what they did the thrash my album, they do this psychedelic album, they do everything like that sort of their thing, right. Yeah, and like you're talking about Master Jack of all traits, I think this is the album, at least of that I've heard, where they they bring everything together like it's doing all it's doing all of that, but it's doing it all at once rather than segmenting it of fear, as the thrash metal here is that think. So for me, I think that makes this a much stronger collection than when I've tried to dabble in some of their other stuff, although I did like like Predator x, sounds so close to like planet b off infest the rats nest that, because of that Eclecticism, I did stop the first time I listened this and look it up and be like is this a best of? Like it's called Omnim gatherum. I'm like, is this a compilation? Because it's all over the place and I think, who, I can remember, someone wrote this up for the the editors picks that just went out yesterday, describing it as an hour and a half of genre agnostic experimentations, gone from going from groove metal and Prog rock to hip hop, trip hop and soul and and you mentioned some of the stuff there. But for everything that's going on, I think this is a like this is a psychedelic stone metal album. I find it as much as there's all this different things, I think it has that care and that core is much heavier and darker than anything else they've done outside of the thrash album, which is why I think this is really cool. I've been going back to this a bunch. It does seem to have been the one to convert a lot of listeners and like I've seen a few people in my circle where they've always wanted to get into them. They haven't been able to and hear it's clicking for them and unfortunately I'm just know one of those people. Well, I think I might be with some a few reservations. Yes, this is this is way too long. M and so are repetitive, like they have a lot of refrains and there's the whoo that they bring back all the time. But by the twenty of time you've heard that, you're like, why wait, you just write one good Wu song. So I think they could cut it down. Beginning with is this eighteen minute song we were complaining. I was complaining about the form into acoustic thing, darting the album off with an eighteen minute jam song. Why that? That just needs to straight up be cut. I listened to that once and then have skipped at every single time, mostly because Magenta mountain track to is great and a great open up, but like the dripping tap sort of needs to be it's own EP. It's sort of this album in eighteen minutes. HMM. Putting it on there and putting it at truck like it made me if it was at the end, if this album ended with an eighteen minute jam and like here's everything we've been doing through the album just now we're going off the rails. But they're putting that up front to be antagonistic and weird and cool. But yeah, you cut that hits the fany. I mean this before I listen to a when now this is actually pretty cool. We should actually talk about this. Is this, this could have been a cool people pick for this this week. Turns out, though, I actually like it. And Yeah, yeah, Guy, are and Predator x of the the metal songs, but there there is a heavier, darker undertone through all of this. So yeah, if you're until like stern a metal stuff, like stuff like monster magnet and even like cathedral or Caius, if those bands interest to this album is definitely worth checking out. Just yes, skip the first track, all right, under supports onto supports. I think we should begin with del void and their alm swarm life, because until the spirit came along, I had this sitting in special guests, because this is another one that I thought might be something you are into. Devoid, our Norwegian band, I think. Turns out we'd debuted one of the songs off their previous album on the blog and I got gotta listen. Sounds nothing like this. It's like weird psychedelic, like tribal jam Raup, like closer to King Gise it and wizard wizard. Okay, this album to me. I'm surprised they from Norway, because they sound like you know another carnival E. I was prob band, except to me they sound very specifically like the back half of tools, Anema, when they get into those longer, floaty of songs rather than the riffier ones at the start. So that are of tool, except where cedric from at the drive in front in them. That is my elevator pitch on that, which I think is a pretty cool combination. Is this still anything for you? Color and they had a chance to listen to this once right, and it's the only one that I didn't get to listen to with headphones and it was overspeakers and I got a very different impression of it. Like I got the sort of post rup vibes that you sort of alluded to, but for me this has a lot more of like a stoner okay vibe to it, and boss Kelloid is probably the closest touchstone that I could think of. So in that one lesson I thought. I thought it was pretty good but didn't get through the fine barrier.

Yeah, I was very excited about this when I first heard it because just that combination of tool and out the drive, and I definitely the boss Lloyd comparison makes sense just the the tones to me like that time gets past, like band sound like tool and then bands sound like tool, and this is definitely that. The second one for me, although, having gone back to this album a few times, like it's not, it's nothing, nothing sticking with me as sort of I like the overall vibe, but I don't think the the songwritings there. And because the trucks are about eight minutes long, and they do, they do that thing. That what was them the other way where I said I had to keep checking that the songs went on repeat because we just get the chorus, that the one with the cool name. Well, they call start over an humount of time antone. Yeah, I think the same criticisms that we had there could apply here. Yeah, because they often just sort of waffle and then not the main riff comes back at the end and it doesn't really have that impact. A lot of the time when I was listening to this, I was like this is just like a less interesting humanitone. Right now, I want to listen to humanitone again. Yeah, this is nowhere near as good as that. Humans are now, but I did really like yeah, just that sort of weird combination. I think if they cut these down to like yeah, go, go more on the out the drive indirection and get some punchyre for minute songs, I think. Yeah, if they followed this sound up on the next release, it could be something pretty cool. So it was delvoid. We just want to work through the list. Yep. Next up then is destruction, German thrash legends. That a band I'm pretty big on. On the thrash dry I wrote an eight track for these guys on the blog. So there's a new destruction album. The reason why this isn't higher on the list is I didn't think you would be that interested in it, and also destruction releasing album every other year and they all sound the same, so this is more just here for me to go hey, there's new destruction now mount it's pretty good. I do have some thoughts on this, but before I get into them, you said you listen to this. What's your take on destructions diabolical? If you like melodic thrash metal, you will like this. Okay, don't. You will not like this, and if you're indifferent, it won't convey you. Pretty much. I'm interested to hear the word melodic. They definitely have big choruses and things but of the sort of German bands and thrashmil in general, they're generally considered our. I could sort of them in the more extreme category, like leaning towards death thrash, but yeah, they do have those massive choruses, so I see where that would come from. Yep, sorry. The thing with destruction is, yes, they they literally release an album like every two or three years and have done for the last thirty or forty years. HMM, they're always pretty good and every like fourth money is really good to great. I thought the last album destruction released, born to perish from two thousand and nineteen, is one of those great ones with a real standout in their catalog for me, and this one is sort of I think this is good, but back to that same that same sort of level, I think. Yeah, track by track, if you listen to it, it's great, like destruction of really good at playing thrash metal. But then listening to this in comparison to bond to Paris, like the songs just don't stand out as much anything. I'm in the process of writing this up for a into the pit post that I've been trying to publish for months and just my life's gone off the rails, but I want to flag this here. Maybe then I'm having some reservations about some of the the lyrics and imagery on this album. So the reason why not talking about the new carpet of brute album that came out is, if you go and read Eden's essay about them, the use of misogynistic imagery and violence against women without sort of critique and also getting the band in the place of the thing. I found that very convincing. Agreed. So the video for the title track, Dibolica, which is also the opening track on this is has the the band's mascot, the mad butcher. He's like going through tinder and he finds a lady and he goes on a date with her and she rejects him, so he kills her and cuts her up and butches her right and our original yeah, now I think there is a difference there between them using this Scott character who's meant to be a monster, and look at him doing that, versus carpet of rout wads. Point is he's increasingly putting himself in the position of the aggressor. So for me this is just sort of horror imagery being used without any critique, but there are there's some lyrics throughout this where I don't know how much I'm projecting onto this, but there there's a song last of a dying breed, which is all about how, you know, it could be a song about like old school thrashes, but it's also sort of like all these new age snowflakes and they need to just get rid of it. Yeah, you get over themselves. There's some there's some other lyrics throughout this that I will elaborate on in my post, but I just wanted to point that out here because I love thrash metal and it's always had this sort of Libertarian Lone Wolf imature. That's there's a song called the lonely wolf on here, which again is just dumb thrash metal shit. But in the current political climate and especially in light of the pandemic, but also the guy from ice earth storming the capital and there's bring people in the face like this is no longer a theoretical link. This is he went and did it. Yeah, so I'm not leveling, I'm not saying destruction are you know, we should be worried about them doing something like that or whatever. It's just I'm getting a bit tired of this imagery and I'm wondering how much longer we can let it pass without saying. You know, is there an actual ideology here that is worth unpacking? So all that's be elaborated on in the next into the pit post, when I get around to actually finishing it. Want to talk about cancer? Bats. Yeah, if you are, you familiar with them. I am a very familiar with cats, of bats. Love Cats. Bats their are hail destroyer is an all timer. It's great, it's even while of a...

...bunch. They're always incredible. was very excited for this album. It's down here in supports, because it's another canc about album that sounds like cant abouts but not as good as the other cants abouts albums. Right, we have a theme? Yeah, well, that sort of. Yeah, we're red destruction and all the stuff we talked about last week getting here. I think this is a pretty good album, but yeah, it did there other albums are really good and this one is not breaking through the fine barrier for me, which is maybe because this is the first album they've done with their guitarist left, so as the first time about him. They apparently, like they all play guitar and they all write the songs together, and so the bass player recorded all the guitars on this album and they've always, always co written. So it's not like anything major change. But I do think you like this. Sounds like cancer bats but not as good, and I didn't know that upon listening to Zelm the first time. So, having found that out retrospectively, on my God, that sort of explains like that that spark is missing. I think this is fine. I wasn't expecting you to listen to this. You did what you take tild I also thought this was fine now, so I thought I'd listen to them before. In hindsight I see that they must have had them mixed up with someone else, because it's a I die. No, okay, someone else again, but I yeah, don't know if I've really heard hardcore mixed with like southern Bluesy rock quite so strongly as they they seem to. So I thought there was a cool mix, although once a few songs in, once I sort of came to terms with this is there, this is their style, then there was just there wasn't much groundbreaking within that, as very much of the coloring within the lines that they'd drawn to. The lines were interesting, but the coloring in not so much. Yeah, I mean this seniorly to is. The sound is like southern hardcore, which is like a sub subgenre of which cans abouts are the poster boys for. But that's ironic because they're from northern Canada. Star calling a southern metal is a bit facetious. On this leading thing, I'm using facedures wrong. Yeah, again you've done the violent sleep of reason thing, the round sign thing, where that's what they mean. You've come in at the end and this is not this is not the best representation if you are at all interested in this sound. Yeah, hail destroyer, their second album is it's phenomenal, and then the two or three after that a really great as well. Yeah, the one thing I will say, though, is the opening song is incredible and it is just rage against the machine, and I am here for it. Is So farcing. Yah. I say that with that link to what sort of the shore said. What's the band that sound like? Where'd you get some machine hardcore? Good night? I'll right, it's the song by from the path. Yeah, yeah, I definitely see a lineage between them and straight for the pathway. I was going to say, I fear if you're interested in this southern hardcore sound like the other other band that maybe you're thinking of I mentioned. Every time I die do a bit of this, but mailne in the sons of disaster. Think their second and third album are really great as well. Can's abouts have always been the other posted children of this scene and by far the best, if we're excluding every time I die, because they do their own sort of thing. The first song, which you're saying is great. That is like a radiate, which is a very stock standard cans about style song. But if you like that, rats from dead set of living is going to blow your head off like this is every cancer bats album sounds with a song that sounds like that, and this is the worst one of them. So Doug this. I strongly recommend going in on cans a bats. They will come even this out, even if this album is a bit, you know, middling for me. All right, then next up and the sports. We have black matter device and there are autonomous weapons. Yep, this is going to be really short and sweet for me because abrasive album is abrasive. So yeah, really not for me and not my genre. So I don't really have anything informative to say about this other than I did not like it. Yeah, well, you got let off the hook because this was originally at the top of the special guest this is when I was really looking forward to because this is their second album, follow up to their two thousand and eighteen album, modern from netticks, which is, you know, good description there, which I wrote up for the blog, raving about saying these guys are the next El Jer, like they're they're the ears to that mathcore sound, although I think the sticking point with that album, or the thing that made it stand out as they also had this really like Chunky Guitar Sound. I had these really like beefy sort of yeah, just chunk to them that made them stand apart, and that is not here on this album. I actually think the production on this album is really thin and I find that, yeah, it's lacking that impact that the the first album felt to me. So I listened to this sort of once and went are now, now you're you're missing that, you missing that identity, and I haven't really gone back to it. Hence why I spared you and dropped it to the supports, although think, I think it was. Jimmy wrote it up for the editors picks and described it as a love letter to mathcore x acute it to near perfection and possibly an important tent pole for the ongoing renaissance of MAC or. So people are digging it, just not not you or me. Again, I also didn't notice every single song starts with the guy going like every single song. Well, to vary that up of it will scared the shit out of my cant who was asleep on that poster. Also throw in Denzel Curry. Not My eyes, see your future again. This is a follow up to an album I really liked, which was his album zoo zo. We you went to...

...that one? Yeah, I thought I quite liked it. It's pretty good. I think it might have landed on my list towards the back end. I think I had the same and then, of course he sort of broke out a bit in between with the cover bulls on paradei did for Trapeleaf. Cool. Yeah, yeah, I really liked zoo at. This is a very different album. I sort of compare it to like Tupac, where zoo was the all eyes on me, the party album, so we could go and make the interesting alum that he wanted to make, except in the case of Tupac, he when wrote down the wor God now got to remember the till, I doubt. Don Klueminati, macabat no, maca valley, Don Klouminati, the seven day theory by Tupac, which is my favorite Tupac album, but two back when in a match darker and more aggressive direction after his big, cool party album, whereas yeah, den's out car, he's gone in this more floaty, abstract direction, which I think this as really good, but it's not really the sound I'm interested in. How you feeling about this one? This one reminded me a bit of the pimper by the fly, okay, and that's one of my favorite hiphop records. So, like, I like the floaty, the floaty stuff. I like the female choir folks type of vocals that were running through quite a few of the songs in the background sort of helped play into that kind of vibe for me. So, yeah, I thought I quite enjoy this. It's not. It's definitely not as energetic as zoo, but I'm enjoying it more than zoo, I think. Oh okay, yeah, I've stuck this on a couple of times. I find it is it's like cool background music, but like, even I think it's a good version of what it is. HMM, even when I have just had it on the background, I think it's too long. Again, it just sort of it's a bit monotonous, like this thing you were saying about Audrey Horn. I get halfway through this I'm like, all right, I get it to pimp butterfly has way more going on. And also, I think like there's no king count on this album. Yeah, the one major drawback for me was the tea pain feature, which, like I don't like all their tune. So it's I think it's more just that preference playing out. But I thought that was horrendous and so I'll enjoy the album a lot more when I get rid of that song. Should do a remix with till from Ramstrong and you can come in like or did get hit ten? I'd know you were that interested in the hip hop stuff. That that is cool. We could have made that a special guest. All right. And then we have the the biggest artists to release something this month, even bigger than Ramstein or m sugar or whoever. We have Kirk hammets one and only. Of course, they're the lead guitarist of metallica doing his solar EP portals, which is sort of a western themed, like he does do some shredding and their Solos, but it is more like a Western movie soundtrack sort of vibe than a he's him like just treading. Hmm, what are you making of this? It was fun, like it was pretty good to probably I had very low expectations and it wasn't as bad as I was. It wasn't bad, which I was probably expecting it to be, and although one thing that I did find a bit funny was the brass elements, we're really close to the star wars theme. I felt a number of occasions. Oh, I didn't notice that. You know, I am an agree once. I mean, I wasn't expecting much from this, which is weird because I don't think anyone's was expecting much from this, and it's like, like Kirk Hammett isn't fucking great and isn't one of the best guitar players ever. Lady, if people can talk about our e's as he's wipetal or whatever, it's like you go right the solo for faid to black or nothing else, mad as and come back or right. This guy rules. So I don't know why I thought or people think like he wouldn't be able to pull it off. I mean maybe it's more that's that that Western soundtrack name, where it's like, oh, how's that kind of work? I think this works really well and I wish this was the soundtrack to an actual movie. I think that would be very cool. I think this would work well as like one of these is the intro to Metallica's things and say them playing the good, the bad and manly thing that I don't care about. Like this is far more interesting to me and I would be interested to see them sort of like this could have been a cool thing to have him an ex metallic album or something. And I don't know, like, obviously it's it's James and Lass Egos and I all of that come into it. But yeah, this is Kirk Hamet's good at things. He's good at making music. You guys see. Yeah, I'm not going to go back to this, but I think this is a perfectly successful version of what he was trying to achieve. So good when your Kirk Coud, you have our approval are. We already talked about reckless love, which means the only one we have left is on death, which, I'm disappointed to find out, is not cold. It's time to rise from the grave. It's called it's time to rise from the grave, which is nowhere near as good. It's could have been a cool people pick as well, because this has been tearing up the extreme metal underground. People are all over this, including both John and Jimmy, whoever written this out map about four times for the blog over the last month. Jimmy reviewed it, saying it's time to rise from the grave. Is it? It's called, a highly entertaining and deeply satisfying distillation of death metal and a phenomenal representation of what makes the genre so great. And then I think he wrote it up again and they the editors picks, saying it is old school death metal at it's most fun and catchy form, paying homage to genre classics with Great Songwriting, original ideas and just enough camp without self parody. John agreed, saying the album was not only a huge step up and forward for the band, but one of the best and most compulsively listenable records of two thousand and twenty two and that he wouldn't be surprised to see this reach modern...

...classic status, and I think the the reception of this album as broadly echoed those sentiments. There's this album has been everywhere. Now, Carl, are you? You said when we were talking about our tastes in the first episode that you like death metal plus something else. Bog standard straight ahead death metal that this is isn't really your thing. So I will go to you first. I will admit there are some chorus but yeah, no, prefix, no interest from me, unfortunately. So I'm someone who does enjoy straight ahead death metal more than you, at least all our I thought I did. There were there was a time where like just death metal. It didn't have to be good. I just like the sound of death metal. So if you were an average death no band, I was probably going to like you more than an average death metal band because I just like the sound of death metal. And, like you're saying, you think you're taste of moving away from that sort of technically thing or the proggy stuff. Yeah, just box stand of death metal is not doing it for me anymore. That that whole like what we're peden dubbed Boom and metal that that sort of move. Like none of those bands really stand out to me and I think actually, you might like this album more than me. I think this album sucks. I am stunned by the reception this is getting. I don't understand it at all. Like it has that throwback vibe, but like it's not like that's different. As we just mentioned, there's so many bands doing the sound of the moment. And Yeah, the first song came in, I'm like, oh, that sounds like a canibal corpse. Or if cool, I like Cannibal Corpse. Then the rest of the album happened. This album does not sound like Cannibal Corps. This album sounds like six feet under. I think the the TART. The performances are sloppy. The Solos are embarrassing. They sound like me trying to solo. I can't remember the solids. Yeah, no, they stood out to me every time as like, are you kidding? I think the tones on this album are awful. So, yeah, to me this sounds like if six feet under release this a, people wouldn't care and they'd make fun of them. But be this is my new thing. I do a's and bees. Be This wouldn't even be in the top five six feet under records. Yeah, I think this is really bad to get it. Talk about heavy blog reviewer slam's band, XYZ. I'm reviewed for a different website. I reviewed the six feet under album there two thousand and fifteen album, crypt of the devil, which is one of the four or five six feet under rack albums. I would say a better than this one. I really liked that album and I so. I gave it a fairly good review, but in something up I said. I can't remember what the exact quote was, but it was. It was something to the equivalent of like it's this album's great and it's also surprising that it came from them after such like a lackluster career to date or something so real backhanded compliment, even though the review was overall very positive. They took that pull quote and stuck it on the marketing for the album that they snapped everywhere. Whatever word it was, I use them like I don't think you know what, like lackluster means or whatever it was, and it was it was, like I said, well after they are an embarrassing two decades as a band. Their finally released a few good albums that they went yeah, put that on the fright. So maybe on death will pick this up and run with it. But yeah, not doing anything for me. Yes, that was on death, which which could have been our cool people pick for the week, but instead I've gone with something. Now this is like an ultra cool people pick. I think says health's album disco for part two, however, that works makes perfect sense. Yeah, now, I picked this one because it's very cool, but also I think this this might be an interesting discussion. We will find out. You Know Health at all? I did not know that. I didn't really either. I saw their name around. So this is a collaboration album and I think disco one was also a collaboration album and I think there was a song with with full of Hell. Now that was called full of health, and I think they did a song with Chinumber, are know from death terms as well. That wasn't on that album but got released. So sort of as they've started collaborating with these extreme metal bands, I've become peripherally aware of them, but apparently they've been around for a while. They're like an experimental electronic indie rock band from America and prior to this best known for doing the soundtrack to the maxicane three video game. But yes, apparently people are aware of them. People what a color than me. But yes, there was a bit of buzz within heavier circles because disco, the first disco for or the fourth, the first fourth disco had yet had full of hell on it, which and had some other sort of heavy I had perturbator and Ghostmain, but even then they're sort of like peripheral to extreme music. Otherwise, much more sort of poppy artist that had a hundred Gaess, youth, code, Jpeg, Mafia, soccer my. So yeah, more pop and indie leading, whereas, yes, they're. The line up for this album includes collaborations with poppy, nine inch nails, lamb of God, the body, backwash, horror and perturbator again. So a much more deliberately extreme album this time around. Yeah, what are you making of this? One Color? I thought it was a little disjointed, which is probably unsurprising given every track has a different guests on it. The more hip hop and indie moments didn't really work for me, but when it where they really homed in on the electronic and metal elements, I thought it was really strong. Like the nine inch nails feature mayard veil. Thought they were super cool. The Lamb of God one I did enjoy, although I I feel like with there...

...it was sort of here's the electronic part, here's the lamb of God metal part, and they could have done a better job of perhaps blending those sounds. But I still liked it overall. So so yeah, bit hit and Miss, depending on the genres they're playing with. For me, yeah, I agree, and it's like, obviously we like death metal, so we're going to like the death metal songs or whatever. But I think, yeah, it's the heaviest stuff that works way better on this album than everything else. It's a little bit repetitive and monitorn at times, like the the poppy song sounds really cool for two minutes and then the last three minutes it's just sort of repetitive. I wish they they went a bit further. Same with the nine inch nail song really and and those two songs to start the album a very morose but then, yeah, when you get into something like the song with backwash and horror, I think it's really cool and really aggressive. The Lamb of God song I really like. I think it works super well, except it does start off with like the riff at the start. Is the chuck at the start is the same as resurrection man, which was the best song on the last lamb of God album. So they just like do that again. She's so saying, oh, lamb of God, you are sort of you needs buried up a bit. But you know all those songs they did. We're randy was doing the clean singing and it didn't really work or whatever. They they guy from health who's putting his voice through all this processing, like it sounds very feminine to me, but it works way better here. I like, I'll I actually listened to that and went, Oh, this this is how you get like clean singing in a lamb of God song to work. I think it's really successful. Yeah, so, yeah, I was quite impressed with this. Yeah, it's not coherent, but it's like meant to be a collaborative album. But for me at the weakest track on this album by a mile is the remix of their own song that they put at the end. That these days, the the actual just health song. I think is so much lesser than that than the rest of these songs, which maybe says, yeah, they have cool tones. They maybe they're able to accentuate other people's material, but I don't know if the songwriting chops are there on their own. But I don't know. I haven't listened to enough of their other stuff. But yeah, when you bring them into like, I would like to see them work more with someone like poppy on nine inch nails, or even man. My God, I think this is really cool. Yeah, great, and yeah, I listened to the I gave the first fourth disco. I listen as well. I always say that once, but I don't think it works nearly as well here. Like the standout for me on Madam was the full of how in. The ghost main tracks are obviously my personal taste, but I think they've really hit on something here with the collaborations with heavy artists. So they do another one of these, I would definitely be checking out. I think that makes me one cool dude, and well you as well if you did the same thing. All Right, I think that is us for this week. Yeah, so next month we'll be back to talk about releases from we talked about him already, Kendrick Lamar. I wasn't sure if you'd be interested in talking about him, but you just said you're a big pick to Piper Butterfly fans. So we'll talk about the new Kendrick Lamar O'm yeah, also albums from Moontooth and caven and Co eating Cambria as well coding Cambra and Septic Flesh. A bunch of big names, but I think maybe the biggest stay in there or the most relevant name for us is Ibaraki, who released there are there albumen yesterday. For us this is mattife from tribum's black metal solo collaboration project. I'm not really sure what it is, but I guess we'll get into that more next time. So looking for ARD to talking about that with you. Coed really burying the lead there. What am I bearing the lead? Esan is with him cowriting? I'm not sure if he is, like he's at least producing and writing the whole thing, I'm pretty sure, even if he's not featuring on it. Yeah, just because the truck was specifically says this song featuring us on. I'm like, we'll do all the other ones, not feature us on, but we we can hash that out next. So because it has been built as a matt he few project from what I've seen. So I wasn't sure if this sound had dropped off the project at some point. Did you have any sort of not premature? Who? I think it's really good. It's a premature I thought. Oh Yeah, we had the permit for all. Yeah, we got to listen to it. All right, well then, I warn't. I warn't tease my thoughts about it. We will be back to discuss that next month. There anything else coming out you want to highlight, and I think that's you've done a good job then. So it's there's also a new death lepid album coming out, but I'm not going to make you listen to that. I will listen to that and dark. Yeah, it sucks. Ever been a good album since like nineteen nights? I don't are about so yeah, I'm not going to make you listen to that, unless you want her. After the crash, die and a break through. What's the there's another one coming out, heat, heat have a new album coming out. That's the next one, but that's that's not for a few months. And I think we're going to do cool people, the ultimate cool people time with a new arcade firearm. Yes, yeah, so we'll see what we make of that all right by Nice.

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